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at_leo_87

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time for another challenge?

well, it's been quite some time since our last challenge. is anyone up for the next round of challenges? i might not have time to actually participate but i would love to help organize. i can also volunteer to judge.

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kozz

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

quote:

well, it's been quite some time since our last challenge. is anyone up for the next round of challenges? i might not have time to actually participate but i would love to help organize. i can also volunteer to judge.

I will be in for sure, already drawed back to times, so no excuses anymore!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 5:47:23

HemeolaMan

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

I'm in for any audio duties.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 6:13:14

yohan

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

I would like to join too, for motivating myself to learn new things

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 8:05:33

mrMagenta

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

I'd like a new challenge :-)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 8:17:24

XXX

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

Some parts of Mandaito by Vicente are something ive always wanted to learn..

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 9:13:40

Mike_Kinny

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to XXX)

quote:

Vicente

I would like to participate but please no pussy stuff.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 10:07:12

Arash

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to Mike_Kinny)

quote:

Some parts of Mandaito

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mike_Kinny

quote:

Vicente

I would like to participate but please no pussy stuff.

you call this pussy stuff?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 11:03:48

Ron.M

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to Arash)

The first few moments of the video..I thought it was Todd!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 11:32:45

Pimientito

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to XXX)

quote:

Mandaito by Vicente

Thats some challenge guys

Why not have la Barrosa at the same time while we are at it....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 13:58:37

xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to Pimientito)

i'm in too!
we should do all levels but at least two weeks apart...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 15:02:28

Mike_Kinny

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

please post your challenge suggestions Here

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 15:31:40

at_leo_87

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

i think two weeks apart is a great idea. let's focus first on the beginners challenge. that way, we dont have any body getting a head start on the other challenges.
let's focus on:
1. picking a piece
2. prizes (maybe this can even somehow work with the foro support idea)
3. getting more competitors
4. getting some judges

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 15:40:55

CuerdasDulces

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From: Toronto

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

Hey I'll give this a shot.
Is bulerias usually the palo of choice for challenges?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 16:38:33

fevictor

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From: Quepos / Manuel Antonio, Costa Rica

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

I'm in for the intermediate challenge! I don't think I'm ready yet, but thats the point, right??

Thanks at_leo_87 for the suggestion.

Vic

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 17:26:04

Elie

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

I'm down for any challenge

hope the challenge not gonna be the next week coz I will be out of my city .

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 17:26:52

HemeolaMan

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

I really think the beginner intermediate advanced "learn a piece" challenge is lame. really lame. Learn pieces whenever you want, but lets do a challenge that doesn't involve listening to the same piece a whole bunch of times.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 18:51:44

fevictor

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From: Quepos / Manuel Antonio, Costa Rica

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

quote:

but lets do a challenge that doesn't involve listening to the same piece a whole bunch of times.

isn't that the point of the challenge? To see who can learn and best play the same piece?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 18:59:15

at_leo_87

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

it's been successful in the past and people seem to really learn a lot from it. but of course, all other ideas are encouraged.

cuerdas, i think the beginners did a tangos and solea once as well.

darkelie, the challenges go on for a month and it takes some time to get started so you should still have plenty of time.

i'm still waiting for the usual competitors to chime in. louis, cathulu, ailsa?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 19:06:08

Ron.M

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to HemeolaMan)

quote:

I really think the beginner intermediate advanced "learn a piece" challenge is lame. really lame. Learn pieces whenever you want, but lets do a challenge that doesn't involve listening to the same piece a whole bunch of times.

I don't get it, Hem..

Like, everybody should learn a different piece or what?

Please expand on your idea if you would...

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 19:29:37

Mike_Kinny

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

IMHO we should also have less official competitions with no prizes or judges (thus less time-consuming and therefore arranged more often) just for the sake of practicing some new material, especially for those of us who have no teacher.

Maybe just a poll thread so members can listen and vote for their favorite performance.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 20:44:13

at_leo_87

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

ok, so who can i count on joining the beginner's challenge? please chime in even if you're not sure yet.

prizes: this is a good chance for anyone with a product or service to advertise. speak up if you have something you'd like to offer for the challengers!

i'd like to propose some rules:

i would hate to see some stranger who we dont know anything about sign up for the forum, win the competition, take the prize, and then disappear forever. i'd like for this competition to be for actual foro members. so let me know if this is an **** move, but i suggest all competitors should have been a member for at least one month and has at least 20 posts.

recording, everything must be done in one take. one person, one guitar, one take. no punch ins or edits. reverb and eq is okay. only ONE guitar track. unless you're doing stereo with one take.
it is recommended that you record with solo compas or a metronome. solo compas will be provided.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 23:12:59

cathulu

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From: Vancouver, Canukistan

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

I am in for the beginner challenge! I am going to bust out of beginners once and for all! I was thinking also it is time for a new challenge.

Anthony, I like your ideas, the last beginners challenge was done similarly so we don't get "poachers". But even then, there was some controversy about what constitutes a beginner. I don't think that can be policed though and it is better to leave it to the competitor to judge what level they enter based on past challenge winners and material. We now have three challenges on the board so people can see what is expected of them and the level of playing required.

What I would like to see if possible is also a "real beginners" challenge - a newbie challenge say, like a simple solea compas and very easy falseta - for the newbies that have just picked-up the guitar. But maybe there aren't enough newbies that want to do a challenge, but they should take one on because it puts you outside your comfort zone and you learn a lot.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2010 23:53:53

at_leo_87

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

ok, great! so for beginners we have so far:

cathulu
kozz
ailsa
minordjango
louis_b
veet
conradp
nenadk

a few of you have stated that you wanted to join but didn't specify what level.
in the very near future, we'll a challenge for intermediate, advanced, and newbie. so let me know if you want to be included in one of those.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2010 0:31:02

fevictor

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From: Quepos / Manuel Antonio, Costa Rica

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

Well, Im definately in. Id actually like to hear both the beginner and intermediate challenge pieces so that I can get an idea of where I stand. I like the idea of pushing myself to the intermediate level, but that may just be a pipe dream. I think Ill know once I hear both tracks.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2010 0:40:42

at_leo_87

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to fevictor)

ok sure. you should also check out the previous challenge to see where you stand. we may not pick the intermediate piece until the beginner challenge has started.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2010 0:48:56

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

let's scrap the 20 posts rule, i agree with the one about having been a member for x period of time...there are many people, especially beginners who rarely post but read every day...like my friend who participated in the previous beginners' challenge, i wouldn't like to see members missing out just because they haven't posted enough...

btw! those who participated in previous beginners' challenges (and the last one was a while ago!) should now really be looking forward to the intermediate one as they surely are improving, aren't they?

as to what constitutes a beginner, our ears can tell that, last time was some controversy, but everybody including the person involved agreed that he was in fact well above beginner level, so there was really no problem about that...i think the people here playing and listening to this kind of music can judge their own level of playing very well and i'm not expecting any controversy this time around...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2010 1:38:06

CuerdasDulces

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From: Toronto

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

So, the challenge is to play one whole piece?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2010 1:58:31

at_leo_87

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RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

ok, we'll scrap the minimum post rule. i'll make definite rules once we get the official thread going.

cuerdas, only the advanced level play a whole piece. intermediates usually do a few falsetas. beginners do one or two falsetas with some compas playing in between and before and after.

ok, here's the last beginners challenge to give you an idea:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=125489&p=1&mpage=1&tmode=1&smode=1

the last intermediate:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=118400&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

advanced:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=109254&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2010 2:22:39

CuerdasDulces

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From: Toronto

RE: time for another challenge? (in reply to at_leo_87)

Ok cool. Count me in for the intermediate challenge

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