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Andy Culpepper
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I made a Conde-inspired blanca
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I recently completed another "experimental" flamenco guitar and wanted to share the results. This came at the request of Victor who is an active professional musician in the New Jersey area. He is a junkie for good live sound and is always striving to achieve a good, pure, natural sound at his performances which are often in noisy venues, etc. He is very successful with these gigs and attributes a large part of his success to that tireless pursuit of good tone. Anyway, he reached out to me with a desire to have a guitar that is responsive, but with very controlled bass frequencies so that he doesn't have to put as much effort into EQ to avoid feedback and undesirable boominess. This would make life a lot easier as far as gear, setup, etc. This represented an interesting puzzle to me, but after thinking about it for a bit, I thought of the modern Conde designs with the big beefy parallel braces going up through the lower harmonic bar. Based on the work of Alan Carruth, I had the heuristic in my mind that adding a lot of long-grain stiffness to the top would tend to limit the bass response, which makes sense as I think of the modern Conde sound being very midrange/treble driven. I think it's compensated by the fact that the 5 fan braces are parallel and wider spaced, giving the bridge and top some breathing room so it's not completely choked off. Anyway, long story short, I came up with this design that I think worked really, really well. The trebles on this guitar are phenomenal I think, and it has a good amount of growl without being overly bassy...anyway Victor's review speaks for itself: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10233583450751208&set=a.2396492954827 And here's a recording he made of it, hopefully these Facebook links work: https://www.facebook.com/reel/3723659831216234
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Date May 17 2024 16:38:43
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Ricardo
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RE: I made a Conde-inspired blanca (in reply to Andy Culpepper)
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Based on the work of Alan Carruth, I had the heuristic in my mind that adding a lot of long-grain stiffness to the top would tend to limit the bass response, which makes sense as I think of the modern Conde sound being very midrange/treble driven. I think it's compensated by the fact that the 5 fan braces are parallel and wider spaced, giving the bridge and top some breathing room so it's not completely choked off. I don’t know Carruth, but was wondering if you feel the brace pattern is really “the thing” in the end, for that midrange balance? The old conde also used the parallel sticks, the difference of the modern design is only those few inches that book end the soundhole. I find the old and new condes extremely similar in tone, despite what some people claim. The other thing is, it is obvious with condes that despite the same bracing, the Blanca and negra respond very differently (negra being less balanced, with more bass and treb than mid range, yet still not like a classical guitar).
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Date Jun. 7 2024 14:11:25
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Ricardo
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RE: I made a Conde-inspired blanca (in reply to orsonw)
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ORIGINAL: orsonw quote:
74, 75, 76… We are speaking of the same guitar used by Paco. Th Same plantilla kept being used in different years. Felipe Conde calls “ 74 replica” the copy of the guitar used by Paco (same plantilla, woods and rosette) He couldn't recall the name of Paco as when Paco was alive he had clearly took distance from the Conde shop of Calle Felipe V, claiming his name could be quoted just by Juliana Conde out of his long time friendship with Faustino. As well as a replica of Paco's 1975 often used concert guitar, they do also make a replica of another of Paco's guitars from 1974. As you say they do not name Paco in their official marketing, but it's no secret these are copies of Paco's guitars. https://www.flamencoguitarsforsale.net/en/50-anniversary-felipe-conde-reed-sobrinos-de-domingo-esteso-1974/ quote:
The 5 + 2 struts is instead more recent: it’s a bracing pattern drawn by Faustino after Barbero and was also used on some blancas. Thanks for the information. Thanks for clearing that up. Cedar top, 1974, different guitar totally. You dont’ brace it the same as spruce far as I understand, cedar is braced heavier, no?. When the heck did Paco ever use the guitar you see him with under that tree??? Never seen him on stage or tv with it, however, it looks (low res photos there) suspiciously similar to the 1980 sold already. Is the story referring to an unseen guitar, or it is supposed to be that red one paco has? The copy doesn’t look at all like it, looks like Manuel Adalid LOL!!! Anyway, I still find it amusing the GOOD condes I have played have the Brune bracing ,and you guys are saying those are the minority guitars historically? It is all quite curious to me.
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