Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.
RE: Important: Plan for the Video Mo... (in reply to marduk)
Im working like a maniac right now..I might try to record some words tomorrow at work. Right now Im looking like a sleepy jerk..so not possible. Tomorrow..I will look like a working jerk. Thats better. Anyway, Ron was important to me but Im not experienced with too many losses of friends..so I don´t know if I want to talk to the people at the funreal. I don´t know these people so Im still undecided if I really want to do that, or if I say bye myself over here like I did already. I respect everybody of the people Ron knew beside the internet...but please understand me if I have not really the wish to talk to anybody else than the people here. Ron was very very special to me, honestly... I always took his advice without question it. It was always the right and wise thing. And do you know what he also told me. "Whatever you do, don´t marry." You guys definitely remember what sad things happened in Rons life lately that threw him to the ground..severely. I remember my grandpa. He was also a phenomenal guy like Ron. I deeply respect and love him. He was old but very strong and positive. When my grandma died, he didn´t make it more than 2-3 more years. He died from broken hart. There was no meaning left for him to stay alive. Now, think back about what happened to Ron. If I would record a video and talk about the major things I got from him. Its fun memory and advice, staying positive when others go nuts, but I also saw what major sad thing happened to him and how much he suffered from that. Anyway, I don´t know the reason for his passing. But if I would record a video to talk about my memories with him.. I would also talk about that. And I don´t want to make people sad, nor telling em in front of grieving people what they have done, in front of Ron. I never close my eyes from the truth as bad as it is. I say things that need to be said. But this time... I won´t (on video), and therefore I might not record a video to prevent touching very sensitive things.
I might think too much... anyway. You guys know how much I liked Ron.
Posts: 6447
Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy
RE: Important: Plan for the Video Mo... (in reply to Doitsujin)
quote:
I won´t, and therefore I might not record a video to prevent touching very sensitive things.
I might think too much... anyway. You guys know how much I liked Ron.
Yeah, we do and I understand. I hope you don't think me hypocritical to say good words about Ron when I am there... and hint at some of the pain he went through, in my own way?
RE: Important: Plan for the Video Mo... (in reply to marduk)
I don´t really know what the right way would be. You are more experienced than me... I think you will do the right thing the right way. I would mess it up..im sure. Im too direct for most people..
RE: Video (or Audio) for Ron, Deadli... (in reply to Escribano)
quote:
Let me know if we can expect anything from you by the end of Wednesday. Thanks!
I am doing mine tonight
quote:
so I don´t know if I want to talk to the people at the funeral. I don´t know these people so Im still undecided if I really want to do that, or if I say bye myself over here like I did already
look buddy i feel the same i am very self conscious, i dont like talking on camera, its out of our comfort zone, talking to people we dont know...but this is not about us, its not just about saying good bye its about paying a tribute to the person he was...to the people at the funeral ...its Ron we talking about here, our buddy...forget all the other people he was your mate and mine...
quote:
I would also talk about that. And I don´t want to make people sad, nor telling em in front of grieving people what they have done, in front of Ron
its not a good idea to bring up the bad times, people have their own regrets.. he passed theres nothing anyone can do now, u dont need to say it, it needs to be dignified, its about saying goodbye and telling the world what an wonderful person we knew him to be and what he meant to us...
He deserves to be remembered for the great man he was not for having a tough time at the end with personal problems ...and that was in confidence
Not to make you feel guilty but I hope you decide to pay your respects man...for your own closure...I am sorry but "You guys know how much i liked him " its not enough here, especially not from you who was one of his favorites here and always had your back when new people didn't understand your sense of humor and got offended ...cmon buddy think who we talking about and what we doing here , you can do better...forget everything else and everyone else ..put your personal feelings aside for a sec and do what needs to be done
As i said i am self conscious talking to the camera in front of strangers too (I am sure many are, well be self conscious and uncomfortable together for a good reason)..
Ron has been part of your everyday life and mine for many many years...if not us then who ? we probably spent more time talking to him almost daily for years than most people at the funeral...the forum were his closest friends he spoke to daily...
RE: Video (or Audio) for Ron, Deadli... (in reply to gj Michelob)
quote:
Procrastination is the way of the world guys. You can't say "deadline monday....but actually wednesday...." cuz you get flooded thursday morning.
I am responsible for that...Simon told me that it was Wednesday after talking to AC after I already put down Monday a few days before (we were playing it safe before we knew details)...since it was only 2 days extra i decided... so that people wont relax too much on the deadline extension which is not that much il leave the official one at the top for Monday and those who need it can have the extra 2 days..
i dont know it made sense to me at the time...people see the word "extension" they generally assume its longer and relax ....not 2 days..its not that much of an extension that anyone can afford to relax
RE: Video (or Audio) for Ron, Deadli... (in reply to rombsix)
Imo that was perfect rombix, i just hope mine can be as good and i can be as well spoken...getting frogs in my throat just watching it..before we just talked about it, now its becoming real, we actually saying good bye to him
RE: Important: Plan for the Video Mo... (in reply to marduk)
All I have at the moment is my phone to record with. I had friend take video of me, but I can't emaiL it from my phone. If I upload it to you tube can it be downloaded from there to use?
Posts: 833
Joined: Oct. 29 2006
From: Olympia, WA in the Great Pacific Northwest
RE: Important: Plan for the Video Mo... (in reply to Escribano)
Simon,
The file was too big to email, so I youtubed it and have just sent you an email with a link to the video. Hopefully you are in receipt of an email from a yahoo address with my name in it, sent around 11:30 pm PST. If you find a link to a video with a devilishly handsome bearded gentleman, then I sent the wrong link!
Little longer than I had hoped, 2:02, so hopefully that's not too much. All that stammering really pads out the running time! Feel free to chop 'er down of you have to.
Posts: 833
Joined: Oct. 29 2006
From: Olympia, WA in the Great Pacific Northwest
RE: Give me 15 secs. for Ron (in reply to Escribano)
Hey, Simon
I want to leave the video up for a bit, in case you need to re-grab it or whatever, but I'd also like to take it down when you've got it safely in hand. Can you give me an all-clear when it's safe to do so?
I want to leave the video up for a bit, in case you need to re-grab it or whatever, but I'd also like to take it down when you've got it safely in hand. Can you give me an all-clear when it's safe to do so?
Yeah, I need it there for a couple more days, until we have everything in. Thanks.