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cathulu
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From: Vancouver, Canukistan
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RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to mrMagenta)
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The "Secret" to this Bulerias... OK, the toughest part of this one is the decending lick, here is what I figured out and I believe matches exactly what Moraito is doing... The key to this is that you are tapping your foot on the two beat, 12,2,4,6,8,10,12 etc. Any other approach is crazy. When you get to the 10 and the start of the triplets it all matches perfectly with the two beat, just a little syncopated but only in 8th notes. I show the two beat below with the up arrowhead. Moraito even taps the guitar top on the two beat twice before he starts his rasgueo. It all fits perfect. I know the more advanced players said something like this earlier but it took a while for my thick skull to appreciate it. In the version Flo uploaded all of the ornamentals are removed and a couple of simplifications which I show. Why did it take me so long to get here??? Hopes this helps someone else...
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Date Feb. 11 2009 20:54:47
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Ailsa
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RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to cathulu)
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Cathulu that is really nice of you to help out your fellow competitors! Stars to you!! I don't wanna get everyone confused, so please someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought an extra compas always starts on 7? So it would go: 12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6 etc But maybe there are different ways to count it. Or maybe when you are Moraito you can count it any way you want! Actually I'm getting myself confused now - someone help!
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Date Feb. 11 2009 22:41:41
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cathulu
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RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to duende)
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Ailsa, thinking about it some more, especially if you are doing rhythm like palmas or cajon, I think you are of course very right. But the deal is whatever you can do as a guitarist to simplify the piece and get you through it is what you should do. I think it really does not matter where you start the half compas because whatever you do you will still get to that A bass note feeling the 10. If it works for you to wait for the 12 to start you half compas as the guitarist then that's what you should do. Indeed it is better not to count it as duende says, as have many others in past threads. FYI, how I numbered it was I went back from that A bass note which is the 10, I could feel the 8, 6, 4 and the 2 before it, but anything before that was harder for me to feel. Before the 2 I am a bit lost due to all the syncopations. But when I get to the aforementioned 2,4 and especially the 6 I feel "safe", I can breath easy and I know exactly where I am again in the compas and what is coming up. So I guess that reflects my current limitations and why I am punching over my weight. Cheers!
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Date Feb. 13 2009 19:24:18
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