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RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to Matic)
Spend about half hour a day on this challenge, got most of it (thats only my view) , but trying to get the speed up , little finger get stronger and faster
RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to mrMagenta)
The "Secret" to this Bulerias...
OK, the toughest part of this one is the decending lick, here is what I figured out and I believe matches exactly what Moraito is doing...
The key to this is that you are tapping your foot on the two beat, 12,2,4,6,8,10,12 etc. Any other approach is crazy. When you get to the 10 and the start of the triplets it all matches perfectly with the two beat, just a little syncopated but only in 8th notes. I show the two beat below with the up arrowhead. Moraito even taps the guitar top on the two beat twice before he starts his rasgueo. It all fits perfect. I know the more advanced players said something like this earlier but it took a while for my thick skull to appreciate it.
In the version Flo uploaded all of the ornamentals are removed and a couple of simplifications which I show. Why did it take me so long to get here???
Hopes this helps someone else...
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But maybe there are different ways to count it. Or maybe when you are Moraito you can count it any way you want! Actually I'm getting myself confused now - someone help!
RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to Ailsa)
Hey thanks
Well, this descending lick definetly starts on the "10". I hesitated to number anything afterwards, just that when you get to the A note on the third "10", that also plays the part of the "10" in the compas.
What happens in between just happens I think - when I practice it I don't bother actually counting, I just do it and feel the notes with the foot tap. I suppose when I get better I will feel them in my head without an external foot tap to help. It is just that these loops often don't help mark the two count, so for me the foot tap helps.
I guess this proves that half compas can occur not only at the 12, but the 6 and the 10 and probably the 1 also. I would love if someone who actually knows what they are talking about will chime in.
Finally I suppose that where ever you start the half compas is somewhat arbitrary, cause you will still get to the right place in then end. I could have just as waited to the 12 and started it there I suppose...
RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to duende)
Ailsa, thinking about it some more, especially if you are doing rhythm like palmas or cajon, I think you are of course very right.
But the deal is whatever you can do as a guitarist to simplify the piece and get you through it is what you should do. I think it really does not matter where you start the half compas because whatever you do you will still get to that A bass note feeling the 10. If it works for you to wait for the 12 to start you half compas as the guitarist then that's what you should do. Indeed it is better not to count it as duende says, as have many others in past threads.
FYI, how I numbered it was I went back from that A bass note which is the 10, I could feel the 8, 6, 4 and the 2 before it, but anything before that was harder for me to feel. Before the 2 I am a bit lost due to all the syncopations. But when I get to the aforementioned 2,4 and especially the 6 I feel "safe", I can breath easy and I know exactly where I am again in the compas and what is coming up. So I guess that reflects my current limitations and why I am punching over my weight. Cheers!
RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to Florian)
thanks saved me having to search for the thread...been meanning to check the dates again..
Just a reminder to those taKing part in the challenge and the judging..
the deadline for this group is February 24th the uploading and judging on the 25th this allows 1 day to get organised.. also alows one day to make a thread on the judging... our criteria and discuss the way we will all vote so that everyone judging is exactly on the same page
All the Entries to be emailed here gjc@corradomontgomery.com Mr Giacomo ....can we please have them uploaded togheder as much as possible without gaps ?...only if possible, please dont put your secretary out ...serious its not the end of the world.. is just so that judges dont have too much time to be in different moods in different days for different audios ....u know one could be generous one day, bitter and unforghiving the next lol depending on the kind of days he/she's had, everytime should get the same bitternes or forgivness from the respective judge etc...
The Audio is in Mp3 format normal settings 128kpbs/ 44100 Hz
Also a reminder of the locked in Judges for this and the beginner challenge..
Ron Todkk Grisha Ricardo JasonM Sean Pimientito Norman K John O Doit Kate Florian Duende
I am pretty sure everyone here has confirmed but if i am wrong please let me know...or if i left anyone out please remind me..if anyone else wants to judge ...let me know..Duende ? u are a great candidate since you play it...do you wish to judge on the 24th of this month ?
ps.. Doit not to rub it in your face ...but...the winners of my competitions get fancy red capos (well if they pick the red) that cost 5 times as much as a regular capo too
i hope whomever wins displays it proudly on all their future video uploads
RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to ToddK)
quote:
ps.. Doit not to rub it in your face ...but...the winners of my competitions get fancy red capos (well if they pick the red) that cost 5 times as much as a regular capo too
lol If I would win such a capo, I would use it. But I would pick the brown old looking capo.
RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to Maissam)
Oh B*llocks!
What to do? I can't even get my speed up to the slow bulerias upload speed cleanly... so should I go for it and be sloppy and flappy or play a slow slow bulerias relatively cleanly? I don't think I can get much faster between now and the deadline!
Anyone else having trouble with the speed or am I the only one?
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RE: Challenge, Intermediate Thread (in reply to cathulu)
I agree with Ailsa. Playing slower but clean, correctly and in compas is better than fast but with many mistakes and not clean.
Good news is that this Jerez Style. So even at slower speed, it still sounds ok, if you focus on the Aire instead and try to get the max. out of each note and each chord.
Cathulu, is it a special part which you have trouble with speed? like the short picado part? Or the whole piece?
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