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JasonM

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RobF's Fret Buzz Tester 

RobF mentioned this clever idea of Using a LED light to test for fret buzz in Stu's fret buzz thread. so I made one. And thought I’d make a quick video showing it in action so that Rob doesn’t have to :)

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

That idea came from John Gilbert the California maker I never paid attention to


My buzz tester is drinking four beers and hitting my hand with pipe wrench, if I feel it, not buzzed enough

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

Nice one man!!
That's cool you made one.
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RobF

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to estebanana

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That idea came from John Gilbert the California maker

It’s certainly not original to me, it’s just a continuity tester.

What makes it different from the hardware store variety is the use of an LED, which is fast/sensitive enough to respond to the pulsing of the string contact. A normal incandescent bulb generally won’t get enough energy to drive it.

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My buzz tester is drinking four beers and hitting my hand with pipe wrench, if I feel it, not buzzed enough

My solution to buzz is to give the owner of the guitar ten beers and then tell them it doesn’t exist. Actually, I think we might have just stumbled over the cause of your thumbnail problem...
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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

So it works only for bass strings? My guitar has fret buzz on treble strings. Looks like I need to increase the treble string height which I don't want. But I have to compromise.

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JasonM

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to estebanana

quote:

That idea came from John Gilbert the California maker I never paid attention to


Right, it’s a novel thought or application. I use a continuity tester regularly but to think to use it on a nylon string, wooden, old world machine is like worlds colliding. Plus, like Rob said, a regular one won’t even work.

Devil, yeah only bass strings unfortunately.
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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

Cool! But what do you do with the data? Cuz I assume the frets are already leveled.

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kitarist

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

Hey Jason, would a digital multimeter work too? (as I already have one somewhere)

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RobF

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to Ricardo

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But what do you do with the data? Cuz I assume the frets are already leveled.

It can be useful because sometimes the source of a buzz isn’t necessarily the adjacent fret. This can give some insight into what’s going on with the neck that might not be so apparent when just using a fret rocker. But, mainly it’s fun because we’re guitar geeks.
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JasonM

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to kitarist

quote:

Hey Jason, would a digital multimeter work too? (as I already have one somewhere)


A multimeter is probably not fast enough to react. Mine didn’t work. That’s why Rob uses an LED. You could probably just pick up a cheap test light on Amazon that would do the job as long as it has an LED and not a regular bulb. Or I could send you something
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kitarist

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

hehe let me try amazon first

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mt1007

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

This seems like a really great tool!

Once you do test and find frets that are buzzing how do you troubleshoot? For instance in vid, fret 3 is buzzing so does that mean if you want a buzz free sound you have to lower 3rd fret and those before it? Or level everything in respects to fret 3? Or could it mean not enough relief in neck?

How do you build one of these testers? Got a parts list from Amazon or another retailer?

Man it would be awesome to have, it's like it diy Pleck system for super fraction of price. You could use d strings for 3rd, 2nd and 1st strings to troubleshoot correct?

J and Rob thanks for the info!
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JasonM

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to mt1007

Mt,

You can probably use an LED test light like this one:
Edit* (no bueno)

Or

Edit* (no bueno)

These are designed for automotive use and might be a bit large but they should work, as long as you are able to see the light through the handle when it’s dim. What matters is that the light is an LED and not a standard incandescent type bulb that is more typical for these test light tools.

What to do when you find a fret that’s buzzing? Well I’m probably not the best person to answer that lol. I’ve only done two fret jobs. But first thing I would do is take a fret rocker and check to see if the fret is level with the adjacent frets and work from there. DIY plek machine will be the next project lol
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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

I think both of the testers you’ve linked to are drawing power from the circuit being tested, they aren’t continuity testers, per se. I just did a quick scan, though, so please forgive if I’m off the mark.

I still haven’t come across an affordable LED continuity tester. It seems the incandescent variety has been made in such a great quantity that it may take years before LED ones show up in the hardware stores.
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kitarist

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to RobF

quote:

I think both of the testers you’ve linked to are drawing power from the circuit being tested


You are right about that.

I think I found one though - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HSDHLYE/

It is battery-operated, with LED light, and only $11 US.

Video demo-ing it: https://d2y5sgsy8bbmb8.cloudfront.net/v2/fe7f3a04-d8d6-54b4-9039-59e7fb177837/ShortForm-Generic-480p-16-9-1409173089793-rpcbe5.mp4

Is good?

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JasonM

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to kitarist

Ah Duh! Your right, I’m not thinking straight they are just passive Test lights. But that blue one you found Konstantine looks like it should work. And double use for checking fuses too , lol. I have one sort of like it except it gets power from the car battery - called the PowerProbe. Comes in handy.

If it doesn’t work I can make some up for y’all
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mt1007

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

RobF, Kitarist and J,

Guys thanks for the info. I'm gonna try the link Kitarist put out. If a no go, I'll hit you up J.

Hasta pronto brochachos
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estebanana

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to JasonM

So no one likes my beer joke?

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RobF

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to estebanana

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So no one likes my beer joke?

Well, I did identify it as a possible source of the problems you’re having with your thumb...
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kitarist

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to RobF

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ORIGINAL: RobF

quote:

So no one likes my beer joke?

Well, I did identify it as a possible source of the problems you’re having with your thumb...




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estebanana

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to RobF

My whole experience with the foro is meta

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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to estebanana

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

My whole experience with the foro is meta


Think Sissy Hankshaw

Oh wait, wrong thread?


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RE: RobF's Fret Buzz Tester (in reply to ernandez R

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Think Sissy Hankshaw

Even bananas get the blues.
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