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Marchito

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Who are the next Reyes? 

Based on a ongoing thread about Reyes’ market valuations, I was wondering who you think are those luthiers whose guitars might become very sought after in the years to come. Vincente is - I think - playing a Graciliano Perez, for example. Recently I discovered Josè Villalba, who makes real cannons and in limited quantities. Who you think is the next Reyes and why?
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rombsix

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

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Who you think is the next Reyes and why?


Andy Culpepper, because he's awesome.

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to rombsix

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Andy Culpepper, because he's awesome.


Aw, shucks I have a long way to go, but probably at least 40 years to do it so who knows?

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Echi

 

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

Well, there are many very good makers around but such a great fame for a maker specialised in flamenco guitars is something rare. It’s a small group formed by people like Santos, Domingo Esteso, Barbero, Arcangel, Faustino Conde, Gerundino and Reyes.
Like it or not it’s fair enough to add Ramirez III to the group.
In my opinion they are all very good makers but their guitars are not necessarily the best ones. We all know that this market is strongly conditioned by the pro-players as the world of flamenco in Spain works like that.
The fame of Reyes is strongly due to Vicente and Tomatito and the price is pushed up by the dealers.
My guess for the next Reyes (in terms of market range, I mean) is Barba, then probably someone among Marvi or Plazuelo.
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jalalkun

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

isn't barba already considered a "legend" along with antonio marin and manuel bellido? it seems jeronimo perez is gaining a lot of popularity. other than the already mentioned I believe lester devoe's guitars are very pricey already, he might also be a good candidate for the next "reyes". There are a lot of great and underappreciated guitar makers though (in this regard, with all respect they are much appreciated by all of us ), unfortunately. people like andy, anders, ethan, stephen, deserve to be big global players imo with the monster guitars they make. or even the guy that made my guitar is making beasts. unfortunately, the big tocaores set the trends.

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Echi

 

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

Barba has always been a little more expensive than others (few years ago he used to ask 5500 euro per guitar) but his guitars have always been in the same league with those of Marin Montero, Plazuelo, Manzanero, Manuel Caceres, Jose’ Romero, Bernabè, Marvi, Manuel and Jose’ Bellido.
The recent demand for guitars in the high range of the market pushed his name (and prices up) up.
I for one, compared a Barba with a Pedro Muriel and found better the latter. Great consideration for Barba but the difference in price doesn’t mean necessarily a better guitar.
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jalalkun

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

of course not, that's why I put "legend" in quotation marks. it's the market demand that sets the price in the end and not how good a guitar is.

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RobF

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

IMO, asking this question is no different than asking who will be the next Paco or the next Vicente. Once you can answer that, then look at who made the guitar they’re playing. There’s your next Reyes.
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sartorius

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

Personally I like Javier Mejías guitars, especially in Antonio Rey's hands..
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Arash

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to RobF

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ORIGINAL: RobF

or the next Vicente.


Antonio Rey

But there will be no "next paco"

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Cervantes

 

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

Andy - But he is really the next Gerundino

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tk

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to Marchito

The maker who can achieve to make a guitar on which both flamenco and classical guitar pieces sound good.

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JasonM

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to tk

This could be the next Reyes right here. Maybe not at the pace I’m working though



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 25 2019 0:33:03
 
benros

 

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to JasonM

is there a gap between your endblock and soundboard?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 25 2019 14:36:03
 
JasonM

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to benros

Looks like it from the picture but the end block is beveled so that it contacts the top with a similar surface area as the peones next to it. I got this from Pablo Requena.
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benros

 

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to JasonM

ah okay, i see... interesting idea. ;) thanks for clarifying!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 25 2019 23:11:17
 
benros

 

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to JasonM

p.s: but why then not thinning the endblock down to the depth of the peones?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 25 2019 23:14:13
 
JasonM

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RE: Who are the next Reyes? (in reply to benros

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but why then not thinning the endblock down to the depth of the peones?


Your asking the wrong guy But, I think you want some thickness here to reinforce the sides so that you don’t bump the lower bout and get a crack. The main reason I beveled the end was so that it wouldn’t interfere with my dome as much. I could have not chamfered it and profiled it to match the top too.

I had a hell of a time getting my sides flush with the heel. I cut my slots ok but I think I accidentally hit the inside of the slots with a file when cutting the ledge for the top. You can see the two gaps I have where the shims go in. I was paying close attention to getting the sides flush when I drove them in and not to how they were going in. Lessons learned!

Have you started stripping your top?
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