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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

(FULL DISCOGRAPHY LISTED ON PAGE 8)
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=253824&mpage=8&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1&key=

Here is a Japanese pressing of Paco playing live. I was hoping at first that this might be an unheard Japanese concert but it is simply another version of "en vivo desde el teatro real"

Paco de Lucia en Vivo (JAPAN) LP 1975 PHILIPS 20PP-25

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here is another yet compilation LP entitled Entre dos aguas. It has been released by Olympo and contains the awful fake Entre dos Aguas track and the soleares and tarantos populares by Paco.

Entre dos aguas - Guitarras flamencas 1975 OLYMPO L-277

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Finally for this week a really great addition. Its a Dutch LP called El Fabuloso Paco de lucia. Side 1 is comprised of 6 tracks from La fabulosa guitarra de paco de lucia and side 2 is comprised of 6 tracks from Fantasia Flamenca. Really nice cover photos of Paco with his conde negra. Its undated but im guessing it was made around 1970.

El Fabuloso Paco de Lucia LP (DUTCH) PHILIPS 6414 650

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Paul Magnussen

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

And I thought I had LP storage problems. You must have a house like a barracks!

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Paul Magnussen)

I had no LP storage problems before I decided to seriously research this subject. Who would have believed that Pacos discography would be anything like this large? To date we have listed around 510 items and it is still not finished. I am still finding more links to more material. However if anyone is interested in owning the (probably) largest collection of Paco de lucia records in the world, then please send me a message.

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Its been a few weeks since any updates. It is now getting harder to find more new material but here are few more additions.

Way back on the first page of this thread we talked about the Paco Doble album with Paco Peña. There are 2 versions of this album that at first glance look very similar. Only next to each other are the differences more apparent.
The original Paco Doble album was later re-released as Music for the millions, Paco de Lucia - Paco Peña in 1983. Track listing is identical.

Music for the Millions, Paco de Lucia - Paco Peña 1983 PHILIPS 812 234-1

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 15 2015 14:06:27

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here is another unlisted compilation LP called Entre Dos Aguas. This time all the tracks are played by Paco. Its been released on the Fontana Especial label and contains material mainly from Fuente y Caudal and Almoraima.

Paco de Lucia - Entre dos aguas 1983 FONTANA 63 58 071

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

I found this beautiful Gatefold version of the guitar trios first 2 LPs online. It was released in 1987 under the title 2 great pop classics - John Mclaughlin, Al di Meola, Paco de Lucia

Disc 1 is Friday night in San Francisco (832 171-1)
Disc 2 is Passion, Grace and Fire (832 172-1)

The cover art work is very nice on this version. Inside the gate fold are the original covers to both "Friday night in San Francisco" and "Passion, Grace and fire"

2 Great pop Classics - John Mclaughlin, Al di Meola, Paco de Lucia (Double LP) 1987 PHILIPS 832 170-1

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here is the Japanese version of Dos Guitarras Flamencas by Paco de Lucia and Ricardo Modrego. Its not dated but I am assuming it was produced around the same time as the European version in 1964. The front cover is very simple. Inside there is a 4 page booklet giving track information in Japanese.

Dos Guitarras Flamencas (JAPAN) LP 1964? PHILIPS SFX- 7016

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

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ORIGINAL: Pimientito

I found this beautiful Gatefold version of the guitar trios first 2 LPs online. It was released in 1987 ...

Interesting to note they split the fist track from sanfran into two bands of equal lengths.

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Ricardo)

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Interesting to note they split the first track from sanfran into two bands of equal lengths.

Very observant. The disc itself only has one continuous track though and I wouldnt like to say where one track ends and the other starts

I found this undated Austrian compilation disc. It comes from a series called Folklore around the world and this disc is dedicated to Spain.
Track 2. Real de Feria - Ricardo Modrego and Paco de Lucia
Track 8. Guajiras de Lucia
Track 12. Gaditanos - Ricardo Modrego and Paco de Lucia

Spanien (Espagne) LP (undated) EX LIBRIS PH 6858 914

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

The festival Flamenco series is a bit confusing with different releases of the same material. We already listed the 1968 Philips release. I assumed it would have the same cover as the CD but it doesnt. Here is the original cover for the 1968 Festival Flamenco live album.

Festival Flamenco Gitano Live 1968 PHILIPS 844 400 PY

Thanks Ricardo for tracking down this rare concert clip

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here is an unusual Japanese 4 track EP.
The tracks are taken from 2 guitarras flamencas en America Latina.
1. Manana de Carnaval
2. Siboney
3. Malaguena Salerosa
4. Granada

The disc incorrectly credits these tracks to Paco de Lucia and Ricardo Modrego.
It should of course read Paco de Lucia and Ramon de Algeciras.

Mañana de Carnaval 4 track EP (JAPAN) 1967? PHILIPS SFL-3194

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2015 11:53:30

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here is another unlisted compilation LP with a great cover photo where Paco appears to be wearing one of Ricardos Shirts!!
Also the golpe plate is now starting to become loose around the edges which we dont see in earlier photos.

La Fabulosa Guitarra de Paco de Lucia was produced in 1981 and contains 10 tracks spanning Pacos career up until that time.
1. Entre dos Aguas
2. Tico Tico
3. Monasterio de Sal
4. Montiño
5. Punta del Faro
6. Danza (de la vida breve)
7. Solo quiero Caminar
8. El Vito
9. Rio Ancho
10. Castro Marin

La Fabulosa Guitarra de Paco de Lucia LP 1981 PHILIPS 818 145-1

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Here is the original cover for the 1968 Festival Flamenco live album.

Looks as if Paco was shaking his head at the time that photo was taken

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La Fabulosa Guitarra de Paco de Lucia was produced in 1981 and contains 10 tracks spanning Pacos career up until that time.

How annoying of then to use that title. Better hope it doesn’t show up on Amazon, or it’s guaranteed to display all the reviews from the first solo album.

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

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ORIGINAL: Pimientito

The festival Flamenco series is a bit confusing with different releases of the same material. We already listed the 1968 Philips release. I assumed it would have the same cover as the CD but it doesnt. Here is the original cover for the 1968 Festival Flamenco live album.

Festival Flamenco Gitano Live 1968 PHILIPS 844 400 PY

If this is the live one, it should be 1969. Festival flamenco gitano 3 was the studio album recorded 1968, re published 1986.

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Ricardo)

You are right....this is getting quite confusing though.
The Festival Flamenco Gitano live album has no production date on the disc or sleeve. It was produced by Philips and the sleeve notes are in German. There is photo reference to La singla - Festival Flamenco Gitano'68 on the back so it must have been produced after 1968. It is exactly the same disc as Gran Festival Flamenco produced by L+R records which we listed. The sleeve the notes are in Spanish and they credit the recording date to 1969 and the release date was in 1981. The same disc was released on CD as Festival Flamenco Gitano Live 1 again by L+R in 1998. I will correct the date to 1969 on the original album.

"La singla - Festival Flamenco Gitano'68" also has Paco on it which I think was my point of confusion here.

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

The next point of confusion is that festival flamenco gitano vol 3. was produced before volume 1 in 1968. The version I have is the L+R release from 1986. I have tracked down and ordered a copy of the original Singla '68 recording to see if they are the same. If so it will explain the source of the 1986 release. Finally the Green festival flamenco gitano LP (Germany) seems to be a compilation of tracks from both discs but there is no release date on either the disc or sleeve.

Thanks for your patience to anyone following this.
Here is the new listing for these albums. Please check and correct.

FESTIVAL FLAMENCO SERIES
La Singla“Festival Flamenco Gitano'68 ” 1968 PHILIPS 844 331 PY
Festival Flamenco Gitano Live 1969 PHILIPS 844 400 PY
Gran Festival Flamenco (re release of 1969) 1981 L+R RECORDS 12L0101
Festival Flamenco Gitano 1 CD 1998 JAM 9119-2, (P) 1969 L+R Records
Festival Flamenco Gitano 3 1986 L+R RECORDS LR 44.015
Festival Flamenco Gitano LP (Germany) undated PHILIPS 79 397

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Pimientito

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I was pretty confident that all the EPs from the 60s had been tracked down and listed. I was therefore very surprised to find another unlisted EP with Pepe de Algeciras from 1966.
What is more strange is that this EP is not even mentioned anywhere else. I found it completely by accident and it must be pretty rare. It contains 4 more tracks with Paco and Ramon.

Pepe de Algeciras with Paco and Ramon (7" EP) 1966 POLYDOR 333 FEP

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2015 19:58:32

Pimientito

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Here is another great cover and a rare edition.
Its the Japanese gatefold version of recital de Guitarra presumably from 1971
although the disc itself is undated. Track lists are the same but the cover photos are all new to me.

Recital de Guitarra de Paco de Lucia (JAPAN) PHILIPS SFX-5016

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Pim, this is a fantastic collection. Not only of recordings but also of LP and CD sleeves.

My first contact with Paco's music was in the 70s from a Dos Guitarras Flamencas LP with a picture of a lush girl in a black mini-skirt sporting a sombrero, and kneeling with one knee on a beach somewhere ...

I can't quite recall wether I was more fascinated by the music or by the lady

Unfortunately I didn't keep the record, but I believe it was a Philipps edition (?)

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to edguerin)

Thanks Ed. This collection really has grown into something way beyond what I initially imagined when I started this thread.

I have not seen or heard of the cover that you are talking about but by coincidence I did find a copy of the original Dos Guitarras Flamencas LP last week. This is the original 1964 recording complete with its original red Philips inner sleeve.

https://www.facebook.com/PacodeLucia1947.2014/videos/682355148542258/

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Pimientito

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In the early part of this thread we listed Paco playing with various non flamenco artists. One was the Jule Neigel band from Germany. Paco plays on a track called Paradies from the Album Sphinx. I managed to get a copy of the 1996 CD and find a link to the track.
The sound of the recording to me is very dry but unmistakeably Paco. The guitar solo starts around 2.50 although I have no idea how he got contracted to appear on such an obscure album. (although I believe the band were very sucessful in Germany)

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Pimientito

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I found another unlisted single that somehow slipped through the net. Its weird how they keep appearing even after so long after starting this research.
Its a promo CD single of Buana - Buana King Kong from the Live in America album.

Buana - Buana King Kong (promo CD) 1993 PHILIPS 518 315-2

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

But my best find for the year has got to be this!!!!

I actually found an original copy of Pacos first ever solo EP from 1964.
This was hidden in a box of sevillana records at a flea market. Its in remarkably good condition and comes with the original red Philips inner sleeve. It really completes the collection of EPs from 1964.

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Pimientito

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I know I have said this before but I really am trying now to bring this thread to a conclusion. There has been an enormous amount of material that has been tracked down and collated now and I'm finding very little new material now. Here are a few of the last remaining items.

First up is another unlisted album by Rocio Jurado that is simply called Rocio Jurado. The first track " No me des Guerra" comes from the 1968 EP with dual guitars of Paco de Lucia and Juan Gimenez.

Rocio Jurado LP 1976 COLUMBIA CP 9461

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2015 18:38:41

Pimientito

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This next post is simply for references to the covers (front and back) to disc that are already listed. I found a very good copy of Lolita Valderrama and Paco de Lucia EP "La flor que yo te entregue" 1964 BELTER 51.096. Previously I could only find a low resolution photo of the cover so im pleased I could find a copy.

I also found a copy of Los chiquitos de Algeciras EP volume 2 from 1961. The disc is Ok but the cover has some battle damage on the edge.

Needless to say that both discs were hard to find.

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To tie up the section earlier on this page regarding the Festival Flamenco series, I finally recieved in the mail a copy of the LP La singla- Festival Flamenco Gitano '68. The mystery is finally over. This album is the original 1968 studio album that was re-released as Festival Flamenco Gitano volume 3. The photo set on the back is from the same session as the photo on the cover of the live recording from 1969.

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Pimientito

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Another unlisted cover here. This is the 1975 reissue of Fantasia Flamenca de Paco de Lucia. The track listing is identical to the original 1969 recording but the cover is much more conservative.

Fantasia Flamenca (re-issue) 1975 PHILIPS 5843 198

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2015 19:22:32

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here is another unlisted colaboration and another potential can of worms. This is the cover to the special tour edition CD and DVD of "No es lo mismo" by Alejandro Sanz. If one studies the booklet very carefully you can find hidden in the credits that Paco de Lucia features on track 10 - Regalame la silla donde te esperé.

Paco and Alejandro were good friends and its rumoured that Paco played on various tracks without being credited. I dont know if thats true and I really dont know enough about Alejandro Sanz' discography to say which tracks have Paco on them or not but im sure there are other tracks out there with Paco doing solos with Alejandro Sanz.

Paco also appears briefly for literally 2 or 3 seconds on the "making of" DVD that comes with this set.

Here is the whole track. Paco plays various flourishes throughout but the solo starts around 2:57 (with a brief cameo)

Alejandro Sanz - No es lo mismo (track 10) 2004 WARNER WEA 2564616562