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RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to rombsix)
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they're very nice strings
I take that back - WTF - been only playing these for 25 days, and the D string is already unwound at the second fret, so now I have to change strings again. Sucky!
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to Ricardo)
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Ramzi is a BEAST!!!! Cut through those strings in less than a month.
Hilarious - but for real, I barely play, so I was really surprised that happened. I haven't had a string lose its windings in a very long time (back in the day when I would practice eight hours a day as a teenager). Maybe it's Jason's guitar inspiring me. I love that blanca!!!
Oh, but also - I ordered two sets from SBM, and the second one (which I tried to use yesterday after the D wore out) ended up shipping with a missing low E string even though the package was fully sealed, so WTF quality control is that, Luthier!?
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to rombsix)
All this because the production is in Spain and not in the US. Not the same company anymore. I wonder if it is right to keep the same name when the company is completely different. Well it is right for their profit but I wonder if it is fair for the consumers. The same with Hiscox that are now made in Poland.
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RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to AndresK)
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ORIGINAL: AndresK
All this because the production is in Spain and not in the US. Not the same company anymore. I wonder if it is right to keep the same name when the company is completely different. Well it is right for their profit but I wonder if it is fair for the consumers. The same with Hiscox that are now made in Poland.
You could say that about anything these days. Like companies like Bosch or Siemens or whatever. They all now produce in China or other countries and are basically the same factory and just using their brands which are known to Germans from decades ago, but quality is crap these days. Or the company names are completely sold to others.
By the way, Daddario quality is changing too. Had some bad exerience. Currently I use Knobloch. Never had an issue.
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RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to rombsix)
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ORIGINAL: rombsix
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By the way, Daddario quality is changing too. Had some bad exerience.
What happened?
intonation issues with trebles and the basses become dull immediately. Basses were never long lasting with Daddario but still ok, But the recent EJ45 were like almost dead after 2 days. I don't know if I was unlucky with a batch or what. The basses from Knobloch hold a LONG time and no other issues with them as well. I also had really good experience with the turkish brand Pitbull. Name is kinda weird but the strings are good.
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to rombsix)
If Luthier windings on the D didn't break so fast they would be my preferred string. I used to retie the D string each week shifted along so that a fresh section met the fret.
Now I use D'addario and Knobloch. D'addario don't break. Knobloch last a long time before I need to move the string along.
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to rombsix)
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I take that back - WTF - been only playing these for 25 days, and the D string is already unwound at the second fret, so now I have to change strings again. Sucky!
The second Luthier set - the windings are gone again - D string, three different places. Avoid these strings...
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RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to rombsix)
to be clear...Luthier Extra high tension are the ones failing on the D? I had a set last year I believe, or maybe earlier this year and the Luthiers were my "back up" set, and the A string had a warble or "sick" tone on certain frets so I had to get some La Bellas quick (since I had run out). I was using normal tension. I still have a set or two unused I need to try before I condemn the brand.
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to rombsix)
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The second Luthier set - the windings are gone again - D string
I have used Luthier 30s for more than 15 years and this has always been my experience. Both the original and current manufacturer. These days I only have them on one guitar that I play less often. I still have to move the D string along when I see it beginning to wear.
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to orsonw)
It could be in my head but thought I remember reading others noted the same pre pandemic that they went to an over seas supplier - while they were still in NY. I went through a couple sets when in the past years since they’ve been back in business and they just don’t sound as bright and lively as they used to. I’ve sort of given up on these
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RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to JasonM)
These days, if you want quality long lasting strings with proper quality control, you just have to pay double the price of what you were used to. Like everything else which is now 2 times more expensive. That is the simple truth.
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to Arash)
From what I've read and experienced, D'Addario started having their nylon filament manufactured in-house and ceased having it manufactured in Japan. They then had intonation and other problems with their nylon strings beginning in 2024 (or before) and throughout much of last year.
Fortunately, the new sets have extremely well intonated trebles and good basses. You can tell the new sets because the new trebles are clear unlike the previous trebles that have a cloudy look to them.
RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to zendalex)
the best strings are always either: a) the ones with a photo of a famous guitarist on the packet b) the ones posted to instagram by popular guitarists, until they get sponsored by a different brand and then post a new photo of different strings
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RE: Luthier strings still going??? (in reply to Ricardo)
I know its luthiers topic but since everybody chips in on strings that do not last. For me the winner in this category would be Tomatito/Savarez. I had them on few strange occasions - the 4th broke on each set in fewer than 2 weeks. Then the 5th goes bad within first month. Its interesting that Savarez Cantiga Premiums are actually very good sounding and also very long lasting.
Also everybody praizes Knoblock - and I tried the most expensive ones (sterling silver in the name) - and both 4th and 5th string became dull to point that they would be unusable within just few weeks of playing. I did buy the cheaper actives but did not try them yet, hope they last longer.
My "go to" strings are D'Addario, but Saverez Cantiga Premiums are also great in my experience (Grisha from what I know uses the latter ones). La Bella red trebles seem to be great for mitigating the buzziness which comes from low action on some of my guitars.