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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

(FULL DISCOGRAPHY LISTED ON PAGE 8)
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=253824&mpage=8&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1&key=

Here is another Fandangos de Huelva LP. It has 3 tracks with Paco de Algeciras.
One with Niña de la Puebla, one with Lolita Valderrama and a third track with both Aldefa Soto and Pepe Soto (Por la Verea).
This track is not on either of Adelfa Sotos EPs or on the Pepe Soto EP. Its definately Paco playing so that means there is another missing EP out there somewhere.
I found the track here but the record cover on the video is incorrect.

Fandangos de Huelva 1974 OLYMPO L-142

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2015 10:34:44

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

The essay also says in 1966 Paco recorded 5 EPs with Pepe de Algeciras, Carmen Moreno, Chato de La Isla, Gaspar de Utrera and Manuel Soto "Sordera". We have all these listed and so there is no need to search for more from those artists at that time.

It also Lists 2 recordings with Rocio Jurado (COLUMBIA SCGE 81388 and SCGE 81340) We already have 81340 listed. I tracked down the recording 81388 but Paco is definatley not on that EP as its mainly a piano acompaniment. I checked the whole of Rocio Jurados discography. Ramon de Algeciras played on SCGE 81379 but I could find no other recordings featuring Paco.

It lists 3 important recordings from 1964, the EP with El Camborio and the LP Juerga Flamenca which we have listed. It also lists an EP by Niña Brenes and this is one of the recordings that was on Ricardos list. Finally I know where that Sevillanas track came from.

Niña de Brenes (4 track EP) 1964 PHILIPS 430 992 PE

EDIT 05/03/15 I found a track listing for the Nina de Brenes EP
Niña De Brenes - Por Lo Mudable (Sevillanas) 3:03
Niña De Brenes - Virgen Del Rocío (Fandangos De Huelva) 2:30
Niña De Brenes - Se Corta Una Rama Verde (Fandangos De Huelva) 3:15
Niña De Brenes - Qué Alegre Es La Tierra Mía (Alegrías) 3:08

Its extremely rare, I cant even find a photo of it but at least I know now that it exists and can try to track it down.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2015 10:32:24

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

The cover to a nice copy of El Mundo de Flamenco 1971 PHILIPS 63 28 025 which we already have listed.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2015 10:53:03

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

This next set of items are from Mexico. They are a 3 part vinyl set of "En Hispanoamerica"
Volume 1 has the same track listing as Paco de Lucia y Ramon de Algeciras en Hispanoamerica
Volume 2 has the same track listing as Dos Guitarras Flamencas en America Latina.

Paco de Lucia y Ramon de Algeciras En Hispanoamerica Vol.1 1980 (MEXICO) PHILIPS LPR 15194

Paco de Lucia y Ramon de Algeciras En Hispanoamerica Vol.2 1981 (MEXICO) PHILIPS LPR 15198

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2015 11:05:30

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Volume 3 of this set has the same track listing as dos Guitarras Flamencas with Ricardo Modrego and los 7 de Andalucia

Paco de Lucia En Hispanoamerica Vol.3 1982 (MEXICO) PHILIPS LPR 15246

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2015 11:13:51

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

To return to our missing EPs, the essay lists the EP by Rocio Durcal and then 16 tracks on 4 EPs with Jarrito.
We already have 2 of them listed. The other 2 were harder to find but now we have 8 more tracks and that is like discovering a whole new album.
Again its the blazing dual guitars of Paco and Juan Carmona (Habichuela).
I am surprised that there was not a Jarrito LP or that any of these tracks have been released onto CD.
Really excellent playing and a great find. This now completes our material with Jarrito.

As a side note I should mention that many of the Jarrito EPs (that dont have Paco) have very similar or almost identical looking covers.
You need to check the index number on the sleeve.

Jarrito - Desde La Una a La Una (4 track EP) 1964 COLUMBIA SCGE 80.928
Jarrito - A Una Carcel Fui a Parar (4 track EP) 1964 COLUMBIA SCGE 80.929

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 17 2015 9:19:55

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

A couple of covers I havent yet uploaded. The familiar covers to "friday night in San Francisco" (1981) and "Passion Grace and Fire" (1983) featuring Al Di Meola, John Mclaughlin and Paco. Friday night in San Francisco is still to this day one of the best selling instrumental guitar albums ever and reached number 6 in the 1981 billboard top jazz albums. According to critic Walter Kolosky "... [it] may be considered the most influential of all live acoustic guitar albums"
Despite its criticism from both Flamenco and Jazz purists as pretentious, self indulgent virtuosity, it has become almost iconic today and essential listening to guitarists of every style of playing.

"The Guitar Trio" released a later album in 1996 and recorded a seperate track "El Ciego" for John Mclauglins "The Promise" at around the same time. I consider that track to be kind of an extension to the trio CD.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 20 2015 18:51:53

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

On the subject of Flamenco Jazz here is the cover to the (unlisted) reissue from 1981 of Pedro Iturraldes classic album from 1968.
The original HISPAVOX LP in mint condition is now worth several hundred dollars.

Pedro Iturralde Quintet - Flamenco Jazz (1981 re-issue) JAZZSTOP/MPS JS-051

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 20 2015 19:01:14

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

I discovered that there were a total of 3 EPs recorded with Juan de la Loma and Paco de Algeciras. We listed two of them already.
Here is the third one making a total of 12 tracks. We now have a fairly comprehensive listing of all of the EPs and colaborations recorded in the 60s and 70s.

Juan de la Loma - Cantes de Levante (7" EP) 1965 HISPAVOX HH 16-502

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 21 2015 10:13:27

Pimientito

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Here is the original 1967 LP of "La Fabulosa Guitarra de Paco de Lucia" in immaculate condition along side its later (unlisted) reissue from 1990.

La Fabulosa Guitarra (re-issue) 1990 PHILIPS 838 825-1 (Cassette 838 825-4)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 21 2015 10:31:44

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Its now one year since Paco passed away and I'm trying to bring this thread to some kind of conclusion. Here are a few more additions.
Firstly the covers (already listed) to the 2 LPs by Al Di Meola.
Electric Rendezvous has the track "Passion, Grace and Fire" and Elegant Gypsy has "Mediterranean Sundance" both with Paco.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 9:40:45

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here are covers for two more Camaron and Paco EPS already listed. 62 24 030 and 62 24 032

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 9:57:28

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

I tracked down a copy of the Manuel Soto "El Sordera" EP from 1966. This completes the set of 5 EPs from that time.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 10:53:16

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Just to update the Enrique Montoya section, I uploaded the original 1970 LP and the 1985 re-issue.
The original 12 track LP was repackaged as "Flamenco Romantico" and also released as re-issue on the Discophon Label.
The date on the disc is 1970 but the cover is clearly much more modern and was probably released in the 80s.

Flamenco Romantico - Enrique Montoya con la fabulosa Guitarra de Paco de Lucia. 1970 DISCOPHON S.C. 2067

I also realise I forgot to add Richards (xirdneH_imiJ) CD - El puente from page 2.
Paco de Lucia Y Enrique Montoya - El Puente (18 track CD) 1427.2071-2

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 14:21:47

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

An unlisted single by the "DOLORES" - ¿Por donde Caminas?
Check out the haircuts!!!

Dolores - ¿Por donde Caminas?/ Sandunga (7" single) 1978 POLYDOR 20 62 287

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 14:36:46

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Two more Camaron and Paco covers already listed - 62 24 012 and 62 24 053. I am hopeful that we have now tracked down and listed all the Camaron EPs.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 14:57:17

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Another cover to one of our listed compilations. I updated the index number. Antologia (2 CD set) 1995 MERCURY 528 421-2

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 15:11:17

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

So just when you thought it could not be humanly possible for any more unlisted colaborations out there, here is yet another one, hopefully the last.

Its a 4 track EP with singer and humorist Manolo de Vega and the dual guitars of Paco de Lucia and Remolino Hijo. After nearly a year of researching I still keep stumbling upon this type of uncatalogued material.
Paco de Lucia, an artist whose recording career appears even in death to be as vast and surprising as his creativity when alive.

Manolo De Vega - Corazon, Vuelve (4 track EP) 1970 EMI/REGAL J 016-20.577

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2015 16:14:36

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Another compilation CD containing the "tarantas populares" track.
The other tracks seem to be taken from Guitarra Flamenca volumes 1 and 2.

Música y Canciones de España- La Guitarra Flamenca CD 1990 PERFIL DF042-2

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 28 2015 16:06:28

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After completing the discography with Lolita Valderrama I wanted to check if Paco had recorded with Juan or Juanito Valderrama. His discography is pretty large but I couldnt find any collaborations and then I came across this unusual LP

Juanito Valderrama y Paco de Lucia LP 1979 SAEF SL-2029

However, its a bit of a con because Paco plays yet again the Tarantos and Soleares populares (yawn) and all the other tracks have Ramon accompanying Juan Valderrama. The only exception is the last track "Por Culpita del Dinero" which is credited to Paco de lucia, Ramon de Algeciras and Juan Maya Marote accompanying guitar. I was very excited to listen to this track and possibly find more material.
The extrordinary thing is that this track is a Martinete and there are no guitar parts. This track is listed several times on the net with Paco de Lucia and Juanito Valderrama even though its a solo track with no guitarist. I listed this LP under albums in which Paco plays at least one track.

The only recording I can find with Paco accompanying Juanito Valderrama is a taranta called "A mi Tierra de Linares" released in 2003. However Paco recorded the guitar part after the death of Juanito Valderrama. The track is here.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 4 2015 8:39:56

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

I now realise why the CD cover to Fantasia Flamenco always looks a bit cheap and nasty.
Its because the original record cover has gold in it that is simply printed in yellow on the CD.
The original golden record cover is very splendid.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 5 2015 8:51:33

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pimientito

I now realise why the CD cover to Fantasia Flamenco always looks a bit cheap and nasty. Its because the original record cover has gold in it that is simply printed in yellow on the CD. The original golden record cover is very splendid.

sweet, still my favorite by Paco.

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This is a true rarity
As far as i know, the only Paco de lucia´s Laser Disc ever released (Besides "Meeting of the spirits of the first guitar trio, which has a terrible quality image that jumps all the time, like a bad filmed audience recording)
As a fan of this extinct video format, I´d really love to have it!

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Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to barblackmore)

Wow...thanks for that. It occured to me that some stuff could be on Laser disc but this is the first time I have seen any of Pacos material on one.
I will add it to the miscelllanous section.
If you can resize these photos to 500 pixels it will fit better and make the thread easier to read.

Paco de Lucia - Light and Shade (Laser disc) 1995 JAPAN

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 11 2015 9:23:15

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Another couple of items that slipped the net.
Al Di Meola released a second single with Paco, this time from Electric Rendezvous.

Al Di Meola - Passion, Grace and fire /Jewel inside a dream (7" single) 1982 CBS A-2343

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 11 2015 9:31:16

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I found a missing Paco single as well. The rumba "Convite" was also released as a 7" single with Larry Coryell on second guitar.

Convite (7" single) side B: Herencia (solea) 1981 PHILIPS 60 29 576

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 11 2015 9:39:30

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Checking through the Camaron and Paco EPs, I found another one that had been missed from the list.

El Camaron de la Isla - Bulerias por solea, Solea, Malagueña, Martinete (7" EP) 1973 PHILIPS 62 24 055

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 11 2015 9:48:45

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

Here is another unlisted EP to add to the Fosforito collaborations.

EP "Campanitas de Oro y Plata" 1970 BELTER 52.363

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2015 8:02:05

Pimientito

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

On the top of this page I posted a Fandangos de Huelva LP featuring a track by (brother and sister) Adelfa Soto and Pepe Soto accompanied by Paco de Algeciras.
I have found another LP with another new track by the same combination of artists.
Juega Flamenca contains the track "Te tengo a ver" by Adelfa Soto and Pepe Soto.
That is 2 new tracks which means there has to be another EP out there which has not been listed or even mentioned before in regard to Pacos work.

Juerga Flamenca LP (contains "Te Tengo a Ver") 1974 OLYMPO L-41

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2015 8:16:11

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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)

After a fairly difficult search I finally tracked down the missing EP and here it is.

Adelfa Soto y Pepe Soto - Acompañados de Orquesta (4 track EP) 1964 BELTER 51.113

It was hard to find because (apart from being rare) it looks like all the tracks would be accompanied by orchestra.
In fact only 2 tracks are orchestral and the other 2 are accompanied by Paco.
This is the source of our 2 new tracks. We now have a total of 8 tracks by Adelfa and Paco, 4 tracks with Pepe and Paco and 2 tracks with both Adelfa and Pepe.
This makes a total of 14 tracks.
I am feeling very pleased with myself as this is a new discovery and the first time that these tracks have been fully catalogued.

Our new section of discography looks like this

WITH ADELFA SOTO AND PEPE SOTO
Adelfa Soto - Paco de Lucia and Ramon de Algeciras 1975 OLYMPO L-49
Adelfa Soto "La luna y el Toro" (7" EP) 1964 BELTER 51.119
Adelfa Soto - Mi Adelfita (7" EP) 1964 BELTER 51.114
El Mundo del Flamenco (contains "Mi Adelfita" by Adelfa and Paco)1972 GRAMUSIC GM-145
Trio de Ases 1972? OLYMPO L-53
Pepe Soto - Sin Fronteras ( 4 track EP) 1964 BELTER 51.097
El Alma de La Copla vol.3 LP (contains 2 Pepe Soto tracks) 1974 OLYMPO L-243
Adelfa Soto y Pepe Soto - Acompañados de Orquesta (4 track EP) 1964 BELTER 51.113
Fandangos de Huelva LP (contains "Por la Verea")1974 OLYMPO L-142
Juerga Flamenca LP (contains "Te Tengo a Ver") 1974 OLYMPO L-41