C shaped barre

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SLJ

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Joined: Jul. 12 2013
From: Houston Texas

C shaped barre

yes another newb question. I watch you guys hands when I watch your vids. I saw you using a C shape chord with a barre. It makes a great sounding chord ,, what I mean is the pinky hitting the root on the 5th string ,, Ive played guitar for yrs. But never did this. I of course know using the e shape, am shape, d, shape with a barre. and have tried these the last couple nights. But they are not NEW like using the C shape. I see some of these flamenco chords require long stretches,,, but sound fantastic. Can you recommend a next chord for me to learn.

sorry if this is not clear.
Steve

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rombsix

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to SLJ)

The open form of B7 but played with barre.

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SLJ

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to rombsix)

thank you Ramzi, Ill try it now.

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rombsix

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to SLJ)

So it would be the open form of B7 but played without the pinky on the first string. Or else you wouldn't have enough fingers to play it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 14:56:47

SLJ

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to rombsix)

thanks, I actually knew a guy with a extra thumb {no lie},,, but I guess that wouldn't help anyway :)

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rombsix

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to SLJ)

In chord/tab notation it would be: 312311

Thickest / sixth string: third fret, third finger
Fifth string: first fret, via index finger barre
Fourth string: second fret, second finger
Third string: third fret, fourth finger
Second string: first fret, via index finger barre
Thinnest / first string: first fret, via index finger barre

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 15:10:09

SLJ

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From: Houston Texas

RE: C shaped barre (in reply to rombsix)

wow, thank you for that pic. I was doing it wrong. sounds very unresolved& ethereal ,,, cool chord, thanks again
Steve

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 15:13:23

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: C shaped barre (in reply to rombsix)

this is often followed by moving the bass note down
then changing to F (or E(7) shape)
as in 312311 - 212311 - 131211
its a good workout for the left hand and is most often in this context, of course you can skip the middle chord with the F# bass

also, practice the open A flamenco shape: 02320 becomes say x46764 (or x46760)

ps: i've also countered the G shape in flamenco, really difficult - 320003 becoming say 542225

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Leñador

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to SLJ)

There's always this one.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 15:50:23

SLJ

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to Leñador)

ay,,, theres a chord in the 4th measure onpart B of Spanish Romance, Im working on getting fluid, it looks almost that bad

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 16:02:36

Ricardo

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to SLJ)

Did you miss this up top?

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=17848&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 16:26:48

SLJ

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to Ricardo)

sure did, thank you

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 16:46:33

guitarbuddha

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to rombsix)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rombsix

In chord/tab notation it would be: 312311

Thickest / sixth string: third fret, third finger
Fifth string: first fret, via index finger barre
Fourth string: second fret, second finger
Third string: third fret, fourth finger
Second string: first fret, via index finger barre
Thinnest / first string: first fret, via index finger barre

C11/G. Works well as a passing chord to a straight F or Fm barchord as the 11th is a tonic pedal.

D.

PS 'Fifth string: first fret, via index finger barre' Often not sounded/muted with underside of third finger and a doubled seventh can be a bit muddy.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 17:22:13

guitarbuddha

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to SLJ)

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ORIGINAL: SLJ

ay,,, theres a chord in the 4th measure onpart B of Spanish Romance, Im working on getting fluid, it looks almost that bad

E6(no 5th) ? Pretty easy if you remember that you don't need to fret the fourth string. Pinkie extension to d# will only be hard if you have placed the barre too stiffly.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 17:24:56

SLJ

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to guitarbuddha)

I can do it capoed, but not uncapoed, Im rebuilding my hands, they got weak from 2 yrs of OT banjo playing. You can play that style, with 2 fingers on the left hand if needed

Im feeling the growth and it feels good, stretches I couldn't do 2 weeks ago are easier. Isnt learning fun!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 17:32:35

guitarbuddha

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to SLJ)

Oh well, good luck.

At least Em is the relative minor of G. I LOVE Earl Skruggs.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 17:35:18

orsonw

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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PS 'Fifth string: first fret, via index finger barre' Often not sounded/muted with underside of third finger and a doubled seventh can be a bit muddy.

Ramzi has suggested a very typical chord por medio (in the cambio) where all notes are played, none muted; Flamenco, isn't so polite as to leave out the dirt!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 20:27:50

guitarbuddha

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RE: C shaped barre (in reply to orsonw)

quote:

ORIGINAL: orsonw

quote:

PS 'Fifth string: first fret, via index finger barre' Often not sounded/muted with underside of third finger and a doubled seventh can be a bit muddy.

Ramzi has suggested a very typical chord por medio (in the cambio) where all notes are played, none muted; Flamenco, isn't so polite as to leave out the dirt!

Yeah but I'm lazy and it is kinda hard to get the fifth string to ring, and mostly on recordings it doesn't. I like dirt too, but working hard for it seems to defeat the purpose.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2013 20:49:32