Javier Conde Bulerias!!

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amigo

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Javier Conde Bulerias!!

New video from Javier conde!
Ole javier!!!!!

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Doitsujin

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

Nice to see some useful chords in this harmony. Too bad, he messed up the camera angle a little. His playing always reminds me on Nino Miguel. Very accurate and logical rhythm with some nice picados here and there. I like that he cut of the dreadlocks and looks serious now.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2011 20:55:11

Ron.M

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to Doitsujin)

Maybe I just don't "get it".... but I think this primitive stuff from Morao sounds way more exciting.

Don't get me wrong, Xavier is a great player, I like him!

But...

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2011 21:40:11

rombsix

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

He seriously needs a decent mic! Olé, though.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2011 21:59:46

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

Great stuff, are these his falsetas? I always hoped he would compose something.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2011 22:03:34

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 1:39:00

tonos

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to Ron.M)

Well, I agree with you, Ron. I suppose one reason for that is that a group of musicians is more exciting. Or could it be because Javier Conde's guitar has that awful phaser sound?

This video reminds me very much of La Paquera and Parilla.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 20:12:10

Ramon Amira

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

I agree with Ron. What a waste of a great fantastic talent. He's playing gibberish - Morao is playing Bulerias.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 20:37:56

ToddK

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to Ramon Amira)

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What a waste of fantastic talent.

Javier is a virtuoso guitarist.
Very few guitarists of that level. Millions of critics like yourself, who cant play
their way out of a wet paper bag.
Nobody cares what you think.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 20:53:05

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to ToddK)

quote:

Javier is a virtuoso guitarist.
Very few guitarists of that level. Millions of critics like yourself, who cant play
their way out of a wet paper bag.
Nobody cares what you think.

Ole

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 20:58:22

Ramon Amira

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to ToddK)

quote:

Javier is a virtuoso guitarist.

If you read my post I say that he has a "great fantastic talent."

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 20:59:23

prd1

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to ToddK)

I'm sure this is the same guy that I saw at the Teatro de Santa Maria in Madrid about 5 years ago (I may be wrong?) - it was during the same festival where I first saw Jesus de Rosario (and his eleven year old son) and Paco del Pozo. I thought both guitarists were on a level that would see them become household names - well - at least in a flamenco sense. May not feel accessible to old school traditionalists but these guys were fantastic performers.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 21:11:39

Ramon Amira

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to ToddK)

To ToddK

This is called a "Forum." It is my understanding that this forum is for the free exchange and expression of opinion on matters pertaining to flamenco. You are perfectly free to disagree with my opinion, and to express your own, but I see no call or need for gratuitous nasty, and I might add – uninformed – comments.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 21:24:43

XXX

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

Thats very down to earth, traditional flamenco, i dont see much difference to that Morao vid in terms of guitar style. Its just a different setting: group vs solo. I agree, it sounds alot like Nino Miguel, with the picado bursts, even the chord choices.
You cant hear it in that video, but he has a killer sound in his right hand...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 21:48:24

Escribano

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to XXX)

Killer tremolo for sure. Granaina is my fav. toque libre, thanks for cheering me up with that one.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 21:58:51

bursche

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to Ramon Amira)

quote:

What a waste of a great fantastic talent.

I really don't get it...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 22:20:53

dorspy

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

For me javier(about the technique and feeling of the sound) is the best guitarist in all the world!!!
agree?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 22:39:14

jg7238

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to dorspy)

That's my favorite video of him. Man, he has one of the best picados I've ever heard. Great playing as always.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 22:59:28

dorspy

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to jg7238)

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Man, he has one of the best picados I've ever heard.

I agree!! The best picado and sound!!!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 23:05:14

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 23:57:54

jg7238

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to dorspy)

That can be debatable. At 2:46 to 2:56.

quote:

The best picado and sound!!!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 0:00:32

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to XXX)

Wonderful granaina!

His non-traditional harmonies have a flamenco feel, not just copied from jazz.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 1:29:42

CuerdasDulces

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to dorspy)

Here is the same Alegrias piece played by Serranito. Javier does a great job and to me he sounds better than Serranito

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 3:28:20

ToddK

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to Ramon Amira)

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This is called a "Forum

Yeah, im aware of that. Of course, you're free to say whatever you want.

However, i can speak my mind as well. And my mind is saying, anybody who can watch that bulerias, and say what you said, hasnt a brain or a soul in
their body.
Looks like most here agree with me.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 3:47:08

ToddK

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

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His non-traditional harmonies have a flamenco feel, not just copied from jazz.

Ive never heard any flamenco's copying jazz.

Who in particular are you talking about?

Im baffled.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 4:00:49

sean65

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to ToddK)

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However, i can speak my mind as well.

Well try doing so less offensively. What's up Todd, got some personal beef you want to settle on this thread?

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Looks like most here agree with me

LOL, yeah, only the same people that always agree with you.

Chill out and watch some 'proper' bulerias man.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 5:44:54

ToddK

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to sean65)

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Well try doing so less offensively.

Calling a virtuoso like Javier a big waste, is offensive to me.

If it isnt to you, than simply stay out of it.

Dont address your opinions to me. I didnt ask for them, and i dont care.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 8:02:49

sean65

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

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If it isnt to you, than simply stay out of it.

Dont address your opinions to me. I didnt ask for them, and i dont care.

It is actually cool to disagree with people without offending them. Give it a try sometime. It's just a shame to see interesting threads become so personal.

But keep in mind in not just the people your talking to that can find comments unnecessarily offensive. It's a public forum that the whole world can see. And what people read from your input help them form an opinion on you as a person. If you don't care then you should do.

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Nobody cares what you think.

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Millions of critics like yourself, who cant play their way out of a wet paper bag.

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and say what you said, hasnt a brain or a soul in their body.

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Looks like most here agree with me.

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If it isnt to you, than simply stay out of it.

quote:

Dont address your opinions to me. I didnt ask for them, and i dont care.

LOL. Come on Todd. It's all a bit school playground.

I guess you're just having a bad day,

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 8:34:27

mark74

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to amigo)

Is this kid from the same family who builds Paco's guitars?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 8:39:56

Arash

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RE: Javier Conde Bulerias!! (in reply to sean65)

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ORIGINAL: sean65

It is actually cool to disagree with people without offending them. Give it a try sometime. It's just a shame to see interesting threads become so personal.

Saying to someone "what a waiste of talent", is probably the most offensive thing you could say to a musician.

And Javier also probably sometimes read this Forum.

Of course everyone is free to say that he doesn't like a specific style.

But "what a waiste of talent" is just too much.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2011 10:59:10