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RE: How much do you really enjoy can... (in reply to Florian)
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i dont know why i thought it was such a big deal yesterday
Ha ha...you most definately are a flamenco
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Calling the Romas people Romanians is a mistake
I am well aware that the Roma and Romanians are different people. At that point in the thread I thought we were talking about Gypsies. Also I wasn't making a distinction between Roma and Gitano but the distinction between Roma and Cale - both Gitano but with cultural differences. I agree with Romerito that this is not an overanalysis. Without this distinction we run into the same old steroetypical thinking that puts all gypsies into one cultural group. Im sure Ron would agree that the Scots and the English are not the same although probably a gypsy couldnt tell us apart!!
Anyway, its nice to see a gloves off interactive thread again...its been a while
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RE: How much do you really enjoy can... (in reply to Guest)
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Your response was to me but I never noted a difference between Roma and Gitano. Gitano means egyptian and only more loosely gypsy. As for anthropologists, most that I have read including Teresa San Roman, Bertha Quintana, and Paloma Gay y Blasco prefer Gitano in order to differentiate from other Rom groups. If there is a myth about gypsies, its racial purity. For one, racial purity does not exist. For two, there has been intermarrying for generations although they prefer to marry within.
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This thread has over-analyzed the subject
No such thing. Words are imperfect for communication. Even the most eloquent and articulate scholars have difficulty writing about music, for example. Don't like the cante, don't listen. Don't like a thread, don't read.
A. You have just confirmed my comment about some (not all) would-be ethno-historians' inaccurate observations on this thread. In Spanish, Egyptian is rendered as "egipcio," not, as you suggest, gitano. Gitano remains the preferred Spanish term for gypsy.
B. If you think there is no such thing as over-analyzing a subject, I invite you to re-read this thread, which now consists of six pages, from the beginning.
Cheers,
Bill
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RE: How much do you really enjoy can... (in reply to Richard Ogilby)
Hey, Richard, welcome to the foro! Are you back in Long Beach? Say hello to Fragua. Maybe we can all get together and jam some time. One can never get enough of baile accompaniment.
RE: How much do you really enjoy can... (in reply to Kate)
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I was telling Harold about this thread and he summed it up beautifully saying anyone can learn music, anyone can learn great technique, but flamenco is so much more than that, and it dont mean a thing if you aint got that swing
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RE: How much do you really enjoy can... (in reply to duende)
I love cante flamenco! When I first started flamenco in mid-80s, one of the tapes my father got me was the one with Sabicas and cantaores. It was one of my absolute favorites and I listened to it non-stop. Then 20 years ago I got myself some Camaron records and the one called "Medio siglo de cante flamenco". Again, couldn't stop listening to them. These days that's all I listen to. If you want to understand flamenco you've got to go to the source, which is the song.
Here is one that gives me an instant shot of energy every time:
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