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duende -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 8:31:34)

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Lets have a look at that there owlzapooooa.


now thats funny. LOL!!![:D][:D][:D][:D]




Pimientito -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 10:18:05)

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i dont know why i thought it was such a big deal yesterday


Ha ha...you most definately are a flamenco[:D]

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Calling the Romas people Romanians is a mistake

I am well aware that the Roma and Romanians are different people. At that point in the thread I thought we were talking about Gypsies. Also I wasn't making a distinction between Roma and Gitano but the distinction between Roma and Cale - both Gitano but with cultural differences. I agree with Romerito that this is not an overanalysis. Without this distinction we run into the same old steroetypical thinking that puts all gypsies into one cultural group. Im sure Ron would agree that the Scots and the English are not the same although probably a gypsy couldnt tell us apart!!

Anyway, its nice to see a gloves off interactive thread again...its been a while[;)]




BarkellWH -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 10:34:09)

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Your response was to me but I never noted a difference between Roma and Gitano. Gitano means egyptian and only more loosely gypsy. As for anthropologists, most that I have read including Teresa San Roman, Bertha Quintana, and Paloma Gay y Blasco prefer Gitano in order to differentiate from other Rom groups. If there is a myth about gypsies, its racial purity. For one, racial purity does not exist. For two, there has been intermarrying for generations although they prefer to marry within.

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This thread has over-analyzed the subject

No such thing. Words are imperfect for communication. Even the most eloquent and articulate scholars have difficulty writing about music, for example.
Don't like the cante, don't listen.
Don't like a thread, don't read.


A. You have just confirmed my comment about some (not all) would-be ethno-historians' inaccurate observations on this thread. In Spanish, Egyptian is rendered as "egipcio," not, as you suggest, gitano. Gitano remains the preferred Spanish term for gypsy.

B. If you think there is no such thing as over-analyzing a subject, I invite you to re-read this thread, which now consists of six pages, from the beginning.

Cheers,

Bill




X -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 10:48:41)

Hey, Richard, welcome to the foro! Are you back in Long Beach? Say hello to Fragua. Maybe we can all get together and jam some time. One can never get enough of baile accompaniment.




mezzo -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 11:44:41)

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I was telling Harold about this thread and he summed it up beautifully saying anyone can learn music, anyone can learn great technique, but flamenco is so much more than that, and it dont mean a thing if you aint got that swing

ole!




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XXX -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 15:58:05)

You mean

Si tu no tienes soniquete
pa' que te metes

PdL - Soniquete




Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 15:59:47)

I think it didn't have enough picado




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Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 16:37:40)

Would a :-) have helped the understanding?




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Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 17:17:09)

OK; it was a joke, because there was so much picado.
Jokes are always funnier when explained:-)




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Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 18:59:50)

Ha ha




Crows -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 19:56:48)

Jason McGuire.....I think I love you....No Cante No Flamenco!




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Grisha -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 3 2010 21:27:49)

I love cante flamenco! When I first started flamenco in mid-80s, one of the tapes my father got me was the one with Sabicas and cantaores. It was one of my absolute favorites and I listened to it non-stop. Then 20 years ago I got myself some Camaron records and the one called "Medio siglo de cante flamenco". Again, couldn't stop listening to them. These days that's all I listen to. If you want to understand flamenco you've got to go to the source, which is the song.

Here is one that gives me an instant shot of energy every time:





JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 3 2010 22:28:57)

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Jason McGuire.....I think I love you....No Cante No Flamenco!


aw......shucks

Grisha rocks




CarloJuan -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 4 2010 0:33:20)

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ORIGINAL: JasonMcGuire

aw......shucks

Grisha rocks


He is everybody's envy.....[&:][&:]




CarloJuan -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 4 2010 0:36:17)

Hey Jason isn't that you doing palmas in the vid Grisha posted? [:D]

0:45

peace
[:)]




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JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 4 2010 2:06:49)

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Hey Jason isn't that you doing palmas in the vid Grisha posted?


No.... I am bigger and more burly and I bash my hands together harder than that guy. [:D]




X -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 4 2010 3:05:52)

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ORIGINAL: mezzo

Romas (roms) and romanians is not the same. The romas live in Romania but not only. They also live in Bulgaria or in the Balkans (i think)...

Calling the Romas people Romanians is a mistake. Is like calling a Gitano an Andaluce.


Looks like someone needs to tell the BBC:
uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20101103/tod-spain-s-10-year-old-mum-family-are-h-870a197.html




JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 4 2010 3:16:47)

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But anybody, including Jason and Grisha, would benefit infinitely more by being in a room with those heavyweights.


No s_h_i_t




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JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 4 2010 4:25:59)

none taken




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Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 4 2010 16:38:47)

Just like PDL




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