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mezzo -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 18:55:37)
Romas (roms) and romanians is not the same. The romas live in Romania but not only. They also live in Bulgaria or in the Balkans (i think). Gitanos live in Spain, Portugal, France...and not only in Andalucia. Calling the Romas people Romanians is a mistake. Is like calling a Gitano an Andaluce.

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Ron.M -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 19:14:38)
quote: The romas live in Romania but not only. They also live in Bulgaria or in the Balkans (i think). Well, they certainly don't live in Northern Ireland now.. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6521774.ece cheers, Ron

Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 19:21:44)
http://flamencoapaloseco.blogspot.com/search/label/Antolog%C3%ADa%20del%20Cante%20Gitano%20de%20Nuestra%20Tierra I put this in the classified . Here'how you can find out if you reallly love the cante. BTW all this Gitano stuff has been answered by DNA. We're all from Africa.

XXX -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 19:47:57)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Ogilby BTW all this Gitano stuff has been answered by DNA. We're all from Africa. Best reply to the thread until now [:D][:D] Olé!!

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Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 20:53:08)
In Andalucia you run into A gypsy family that will tell you the other Gypsy family down the street doesn't know anything about flamenco.Then you run into "It's in the blood" Culural ? Racial? "We're all from Africa" levels the hate out .

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Doitsujin -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 21:29:50)
quote: Haven't there been any interbreeding between gypsies and non-gypsies? When some say Tomatito is a gypsy, does it mean he is 100% gypsy? Moraito 100% gypsy? the question is... who cares?

mezzo -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 21:30:00)
quote: Well, they certainly don't live in Northern Ireland now.. Very bad time for these people in the whole Europaland...SCAPEGOAT. quote: Then you run into "It's in the blood" Culural ? Racial? Yes it seems a very widespread perception in this community. Especially regarding the cante abilities.

BarkellWH -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 21:47:39)
quote: quote: BTW all this Gitano stuff has been answered by DNA. We're all from Africa Confuses race (supposedly genetic) with culture (constructed by man). _____________________________ It is interesting to note the number of ethno-historians and ethno-musicologists on this forum who perceive a difference between "Roma" and "Gitano," both of which refer to the same people, Gypsies. Gitano literally means Gypsy in Spanish, while Roma is the more universally used term among anthropologists, referring to all of them, whether in Andalucia, Bulgaria, Romania, or Chile, where I encountered some near Valparaiso. They all have their roots in India, although Westerners first assumed they originated in Egypt (thus "Gypsy"). This thread has over-analyzed the subject (and not always accurately) to the point where it would suck the joy out of any attempt to appreciate and enjoy cante. If you enjoy cante, then enjoy! if not, then don't. No need to write a dissertation on the subject. Cheers, Bill

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Richard Ogilby -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 23:04:57)
The one thing Paco did invent is Ottmar :-)

JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 1 2010 23:33:49)
quote: Big talk. Play something. Okay.

JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 0:12:36)
The role of cante and the point of flamenco...... They sing we play. Its fun. Makes good noise. Much Merriment. Makes life suck less. Simple. Solo guitar...... for sleepy time.

Florian -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 1:16:24)
Pimientito cool, it dosent matter anyway...i dont know why i thought it was such a big deal yesterday quote: The role of cante and the point of flamenco...... They sing we play. Its fun. Makes good noise. Much Merriment. Makes life suck less. Simple. Solo guitar...... for sleepy time. 101% agreed..just for my own taste anyway...each to their own ofcourse...

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JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 3:53:01)
quote: Not you...we know you can play. [:)]

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JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 6:00:37)
quote: What do you want me to play for you sonny? Any particular palo you want to learn more about? Garrotin

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JasonMcGuire -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 7:00:57)
quote: It feels like Bill the kid is teaching the guitar. Howdy partner. Lets have a look at that there owlzapooooa.

Kate -> RE: How much do you really enjoy cante flamenco? (Nov. 2 2010 8:28:11)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mike_Kinny You and me don't care but some people use this kind of bs to spread myth. Non-gypsy can't sing as well as a gypsy. Non-Spaniards can never be as good as Spaniards. Flamenco can't be written down. If you ask how come, then they say because it's malo [:D] and surprise: those who say that can't read and write music themselves. Live together with some gitanos to sound authentic. Paco invented rasgeo, alzapua, cejilla and everything else under the sun. .... Who are these people who keep spreading this BS, we should ban them [:D] I was telling Harold about this thread and he summed it up beautifully saying anyone can learn music, anyone can learn great technique, but flamenco is so much more than that, and it dont mean a thing if you aint got that swing [;)]

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