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RE: Conde Questions
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DonS
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From: Florida and San Francisco Cali
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RE: Conde Questions (in reply to Pimientito)
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ORIGINAL: Pimientito quote:
It's shallower with tighter radius curves and almost flat lines before the two peaks of the medio luna. This is 1997 A26 Felipe V headstock. Are you saying the Felipe V pro model is different? hey thats my 97 Conde A26 headstock pic LOL. Rudy owned it.. then Eddie Lastra then me...I think Ricardos friend owns this now. Its a good guitar and I used it on my album. Honestly Pimientito..a good Conde is a good Conde wherever they were made or not made. I think its safe to say that with production numbers of Conde per year, there is no doubt its semi-factory but it is a good design and like I've said before a good Conde is hard to beat as it has all of the variables (great setup, nice neck, sound etc) needed for flamenco. Honestly, I've yet to find a Conde that I thought was "crappy", I guess its just my taste. If another luthier made a Conde style guitar, I'd probably buy it even minus the "media luna" headstock and label. A foro member/upcoming luthier is making one - ahem but I won't mention any names :) Like many have said before, a Conde is like a Strat..and you just keep coming back to it after going around the block. Of course this is just my 2 cents. Again, like many folks here have said, play it first and if it sounds/feels good to you, buy it. Its a guitar buyers market out there right now and people need the cash.
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Date Feb. 9 2009 9:41:46
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Ricardo
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RE: Conde Questions (in reply to Arash)
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Jim is talking about old condes from gravina, sobrinos de esteso, the brother Faustino and Mariano. The confusion I read was someone, mark?, was asking specifically about Felipe V condes...meaning modern guitars. yeah they are a bit different, but along the samelines of course... About labels, I have seen old sobrinos de esteso that dont' even SAY conde hermanos, but only say Sobrinos de esteso, even from the same years that guitars had lebels saying "hermanos conde". Either way the good guitars have always been signed "conde hermanos".... My personal feeling is that going all the way back to the start of Esteso's dynasty, they might have been contracting out to Valencia. Meaning yeah, even some of the famous Faustino guitars....i mean there was A LOT of those made too, like Ramirez, but at least Ramirez admits he had like a dozen guys building for him... So that means the sons just carry on the way they were taught....but this is all conjecture on my part. Ricardo
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Date Feb. 10 2009 10:03:48
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RE: Conde Questions (in reply to Ricardo)
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Hola Ricardo "My personal feeling is that going all the way back to the start of Esteso's dynasty, they might have been contracting out to Valencia. Meaning yeah, even some of the famous Faustino guitars...." Ricardo Sanchis (padre) told he that he had been very friendly with Faustino and worked with him for some time. I suspect that your "conjecture" is close to the truth. It is a pity that all this controversy and obfuscation tends to hide the fact that Conde guitars are usually very good, whoever is or has been making them. Suerte Sean
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Date Feb. 10 2009 10:29:20
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