Ricardo -> RE: Conde Questions (Feb. 10 2009 10:03:48)
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Jim is talking about old condes from gravina, sobrinos de esteso, the brother Faustino and Mariano. The confusion I read was someone, mark?, was asking specifically about Felipe V condes...meaning modern guitars. yeah they are a bit different, but along the samelines of course... About labels, I have seen old sobrinos de esteso that dont' even SAY conde hermanos, but only say Sobrinos de esteso, even from the same years that guitars had lebels saying "hermanos conde". Either way the good guitars have always been signed "conde hermanos".... My personal feeling is that going all the way back to the start of Esteso's dynasty, they might have been contracting out to Valencia. Meaning yeah, even some of the famous Faustino guitars....i mean there was A LOT of those made too, like Ramirez, but at least Ramirez admits he had like a dozen guys building for him... So that means the sons just carry on the way they were taught....but this is all conjecture on my part. Ricardo
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