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rombsix

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I was recently contacted by a couple of Egyptian young guitarists (some professionals, some hobbyists) who thought they want to create a website to help spread the guitar culture in the Arab world. They thought that there was no site online at the moment that taught guitar (classical, rock/metal, flamenco, etc.) in Arabic, allowing better communication with Arab countries. That is why they formed:

www.darsguitar.net

http://www.youtube.com/user/ArabicGuitarLessons

This is a website where several guitarists pitch in by creating video lessons (and uploading them onto YouTube) teaching various aspects of guitar from A to Z. I was asked whether I would be interested in providing some flamenco lessons. Considering that access to the lessons is free, and that there is nothing legally-binding about the matter, I took a shot at it. The website's function is basically to organize the lessons being uploaded on YouTube and arrange them in a way where they become logical to follow, and usable as sort of "courses" in a certain aspect of guitar (example: scales, technique, theory, rock, classical guitar, flamenco, etc.). The website will also allow users who enjoy lessons provided by certain teachers to get in touch with those teachers for PAID (affordable, though) online or face-to-face (if the teacher and the student are in the same country/area) lessons.

I just uploaded my first lesson, trying to provide an introduction to flamenco, hoping to clarify concepts, and clear up misconceptions. The lesson is in Arabic, so if anyone understands Arabic, feel free to check it out and give me your feedback. I tried to be as careful as I can to keep things simple and mostly "traditional" so that I don't get stuck or transmit mistakes (considering I'm not Norman or Ricardo).

If any Arabs here are interested to join and provide lessons, please let me know, or go to the website and contact the organizers. All you have to do is record videos lessons in Arabic, and upload them onto YouTube. The organizers will take care of arranging stuff onto the darsguitar.net website. You can always get in touch with them if you would like any modifications to be made.

Cheers!

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rombsix

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Where is the link directly to your video?


Click on the embedded video a couple of times and you'll get redirected to the video on YouTube.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 19 2011 8:19:54
 
Florian

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

cool stuff doctor .... salam malecum :-) ...is that right ? i am saying it like it sounds

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rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to Florian

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salam malecum


Take the "m" out from "malecum." Salam Alaykom would look and sound better. Considering you ended up with "male-cum," which is just NOT a great way to salute someone.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 19 2011 8:35:52
 
Kevin James Shanahan

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

Hey romb yeah do it for the people Check out this guys sight it would be easy copy some ideas.
http://www.justinguitar.com/
He is also free and doen it for da people yeah

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 19 2011 8:36:35
 
rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to Kevin James Shanahan

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Check out this guys sight it would be easy copy some ideas.
http://www.justinguitar.com/


Yeah, I know Justin. He's great! Thanks Kevin.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 19 2011 9:08:19
 
Florian

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

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Considering you ended up with "male-cum," which is just NOT a great way to salute someone.




Arab people are soooo touchy


jk..didnt notice that

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 19 2011 9:13:15
 
rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to Florian

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Arab people are soooo touchy


jk..didnt notice that




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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 19 2011 10:49:40
 
Elie

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

that's great Ramzi I'm really happy about your progress there
it is so nice of you to spread music .. flamenco particularly that way and in Arabic
best part I like is when you started talking about Flamenco and Flamingo
I hope this turns into a huge investment for you
" Mabrook "

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Tomrocker

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

GO brother GO. This is the most fantastic organized Arabic lesson Ever, when it come out of the mouth of someone who KNOWS what is he talking about. i'm so happy with that and i wish that your agenda will not stop you making more videos. The middle easy needs people like you. if you will give up being a doctor, i received a fantastic contract opportunity in doha, Qatar for dance accompaniment classes and nights, i leave that for you ,you will rock better than i'm

P.S
For all the non Arabic foro users, Ramzi's Arabic lebanese accent is considered the most beautiful spoken Arabic accent for the ears ever

Cheers;)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 19 2011 19:10:48
 
rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to Tomrocker

Thanks a lot, Elie and Tomrocker! You're so very kind.

















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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2011 8:10:38
 
Estevan

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

Good work, Ramzi - it looks like you are really doing a great job!

Now I just have to learn Arabic...but that's allright



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2011 15:45:11
 
rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to Estevan

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Now I just have to learn Arabic...but that's allright


Interestingly, she teaches THREE words in that video.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2011 15:49:20
 
Estevan

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

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Interestingly, she teaches THREE words in that video.

Yeah, I just remember "jameel..."

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2011 16:43:48
 
rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to Estevan

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Yeah, I just remember "jameel..."


You should visit Beirut sometime...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2011 17:12:34
 
estebanana

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

Wow I'm signing up for Maha 's Arabic class for sure........oh my my

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2011 0:24:02
 
rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to estebanana

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Wow I'm signing up for Maha 's Arabic class for sure........oh my my


You DO know that the name Maha means "wild cow" in Arabic, right? If you're wondering why someone would name another as such, it's because cows were viewed to have very large, dark (and hence beautiful by Arab standards) eyes. Hence the name.

I guess now I'm teaching Arabic per se as well.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2011 0:53:40
 
Estevan

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

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You DO know that the name Maha means "wild cow" in Arabic, right?

Uh...yeah, of course I knew that! Not interested in tame cows.

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If you're wondering why someone would name another as such, it's because cows were viewed to have very large, dark (and hence beautiful by Arab standards) eyes.

Not just Arab standards. Some of us foreigners have standards too, you know!

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I guess now I'm teaching Arabic per se as well.

That's fine - much as the other Stephen and I appreciate your efforts, you'll understand if our primary teacher of choice is Ms. Wild Cow Eyes

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rombsix

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Not just Arab standards. Some of us foreigners have standards too, you know!


Indeed - just that I was referring more to the DARK part being more attractive to Arabs because that is what most Arabs' eyes are colored like.

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That's fine - much as the other Stephen and I appreciate your efforts, you'll understand if our primary teacher of choice is Ms. Wild Cow Eyes


Pfffff... Suit yourselves.

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Tomrocker

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

I found this Video about Flamenco in Arabic with English Subtitles. THe nice thing about it is the ARABIC singer is singing exactly like the Spanish one! ENjoy

http://vimeo.com/16799099

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2011 6:58:03
 
rombsix

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http://vimeo.com/16799099


Cool!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2011 10:51:44
 
flamenkito2000

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

Very good project ramzi , but famencos arabic need moor traning corse in andalousia , like japon its n:2 in flmenco after spain ; caus artista travail to spain and learn flamenco from his source , i wish flamenco devploped in arabic contry , caus its our story after 800 years in andalousia
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rombsix

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 15 2011 20:05:28
 
rombsix

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 18 2011 11:20:41
 
Kevin James Shanahan

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to rombsix

Nice clip Romb , bit long in my opinion for Youtube ,I have allways done my triplets with a down stroke using a and m fingers , back to the point , good work ,I got a lot out of a jose tanaka description of alzapua all in Japanese didn't understand a word but his technique related to me I feel your vid did this also so those that can follow you will learn alot . Check out Gabriella now .



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rombsix

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RE: Trying to make flamenco more acc... (in reply to Kevin James Shanahan

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Nice clip Romb , bit long in my opinion for Youtube ,I have allways done my triplets with a down stroke using a and m fingers , back to the point , good work ,I got a lot out of a jose tanaka description of alzapua all in Japanese didn't understand a word but his technique related to me I feel your vid did this also so those that can follow you will learn alot . Check out Gabriella now .


Thanks for the feedback, Kevin. I realize the clips are a bit long, but I recorded them that way, and I am currently too busy to record newer, cut-up versions. Perhaps I can later do a clip for two-finger rajeos, a clip for three-finger rajeos, etc.

I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful.

About Gabriella: I'm surprised that woman still has five fingers on her right hand. In my eyes, all she seems to do is triplets and golpes with the bony parts of her fingers, and not very often with her nails. I hope she doesn't get any injuries in the future. Ouch!

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Now I just have to learn Arabic...but that's allright


HemdAllah Where do I sign up?

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rombsix

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HemdAllah Where do I sign up?


I have a feeling it's Maha you're interested in, and NOT my flamenco guitar video tutorials...

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you are doing a great think Ramzi

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