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Ricardo

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to gj Michelob

why this topic still going on like this? we had another one where we went through lots of very serious examples of good female players (not going to search it). and even had that ridiculous "why don't women contribute" thread. its enough of this IMO.

anyway I posted before, Salvadora Galan, playing pretty much Pepe Habichuela falsetas note for note no problem and sings like an angel. And she is an old lady.

And here is a young pretty one playing pretty much like any pro virtuoso and accompanying a tough not so common (these days) form (fandango por solea) I already posted it several times. No point in trying to say she is not Paco or Tomatito etc, as she is putting all the trimmings and right hand attack that they would into this. I admit some of the clips above (street girl with wild uncontrolled abanicos, or Laura Gonzales boring attempt at PDL granaina and solea accompaniment pretty wishy washy) are not i the same calibur as you see here:



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gj Michelob

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

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why this topic still going on like this? we had another one where we went through lots of very serious examples of good female players (not going to search it). and even had that ridiculous "why don't women contribute" thread. its enough of this IMO.

anyway I posted before, Salvadora Galan, playing pretty much Pepe Habichuela falsetas note for note no problem and sings like an angel. And she is an old lady.

And here is a young pretty one playing pretty much like any pro virtuoso and accompanying a tough not so common (these days) form (fandango por solea) I already posted it several times. No point in trying to say she is not Paco or Tomatito etc, as she is putting all the trimmings and right hand attack that they would into this. I admit some of the clips above (street girl with wild uncontrolled abanicos, or Laura Gonzales boring attempt at PDL granaina and solea accompaniment pretty wishy washy) are not i the same calibur as you see here:

http://youtu.be/Qu7x_lZel7c


Amen... Eso es!!



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Leñador

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

We want picados!!!! lololol

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El Kiko

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Chilli Fingers

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banging away repetativly at a cheap $200 factory guitar

you all the time i lived in Andalucia,, thats exactly what the gypsies did ...
I knew a guy who would do exactly that , big fella, used to wear a lot of gold chains and that ...he would play sometimes tangos and rumbas ... and sing ... just banging away on a less than £200 guitar ....and the whole party would come to life , with shouting and dancing in the street, or plaza or wherever ...

Although I knew a few guys who played bit more and would get roped into accompanying dance and singing . at the verbena of whatever ....

the vast majority had cheapish hand-me down guitars ....but they really made it flamenco ...and thats what it is ,,,,
Flamenco isnt all about the best guitar in the best acoustic setting and having top international players around ....not that i am putting that down ...

But flamenco is the music of a people .. its singing and dancing their stories , in their way ,..it getting families and friends together , eating drinking and having a good time ....

thats what i was part of and loved it all ... if only i could have played 3 or 4 chords in the same way as what i heard them play over there...
The girl in the clip would have got a big OLE from all the people i knew in Cordoba at that time ....

I suppose , basically , i dont agree with what you said .....

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El Kiko

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

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why this topic still going on like this?


yes just read this ....fair enough .....your right ....

Lets wrap it up , cos really we wont get much further .,,.and the girls can go and play what they want .......

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Cañailla

 

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to alan

I saw Olga Pericet last week in London at the Sadlers Wells' flamenco festival. She brings along a female guitarist and she plays everything fine.

There are few "tocaoras" because most parents put their daughters in dancing classes instead of guitar classes. It's just the tradition, nothing to do with physique.
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Tap_Tap

 

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

why is that video ramzi posted called solea and not la caña?
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jmg12

 

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

Noa drezner again, beautiful tango

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 6 2017 9:38:45
 
benros

 

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

what i found in a quick youtube search:
celia morales is great!
also not too bad: marta robles, antonia jimenez, mercedes lujan...
there are a lot.
i found also a trailer of a documentary about the history of female flamenco guitarists on youtube, tocaoras is it called, i think. seems to be really interesting, but only a trailer and small snippets on youtube.
greetings,
ben
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pundi64

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to alan

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ORIGINAL: alan

A guitar teacher friend of mine said last week that women can't really play flamenco, as they don't have the muscular strength or stamina in their right hands. Without being smutty, can you provide any evidence to disprove his statement, or do you agree with him? Preferably I'd like to send him a video or something. (which he'll then probably regard as an unusual freakish one-off!)

Lura Gonzalez, in my book has it hands down, for playing Flamenco
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Piwin

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Tap_Tap

@Tap_Tap
my guess is that it's just because it's already a composite form with North African music (hence the title, solea "por muwachah").
So it's already not really solea, not cana either, despite some of the signs of a cana. "Just" a fusion piece.

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Ricardo

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Tap_Tap

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ORIGINAL: Tap_Tap

why is that video ramzi posted called solea and not la caña?


Caña por favor

Well, I stick by Mercedes Lujan, the only chick that really plays in this topic. She's got a pretty kicking rumba band too, right up my ally.

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Ricardo

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Arash

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I know I am gonna get in trouble for this too but....AGAIN????????????????????????????

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=309264&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2017 17:49:27
 
Sr. Martins

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo



Chillax man

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Ricardo

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Sr. Martins

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ORIGINAL: Sr. Martins



Chillax man


That is a NICE looking conde

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 16 2017 19:00:01
 
Sr. Martins

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

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That is a NICE looking conde


That unmistakable legstock.

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Arash

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

I know I am gonna get in trouble for this too but....AGAIN????????????????????????????

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=309264&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1


lol

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callemunicion

 

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to Ricardo

some very nice playing

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Ricardo

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RE: female flamenco guitarists (in reply to callemunicion

In the Granaina at 2:40-2:59, I take issue with the reharmonization there.... my thoughts are well documented here, if anyone gives a hoot.... my post about Granaina:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=313974&p=1&mpage=2&tmode=1&smode=1

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