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burnsbyrne

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to Ricardo

Ricardo,
What thickness of golpeador did you use?
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Ricardo

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to burnsbyrne

the standard .45 mm

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 4 2014 15:27:42
 
Ricardo

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to Ricardo

So it's that time again to change the Golpeador, this time on my 3rd most played guitar the 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso. I was concerned because I don' know what the finish is...I think it's a clear shellac FP over the old honey colored whatever to preserve what was not worn off. Anyway, a little lighter fluid did not look good in one spot, so I got the pure Naptha this time. I only have to remove bottom half as the previous owner had a two piece with a perfect seam between the B and G strings. It came off pretty easy thank god. No harm to original finish. Photos here:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=291529&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=1

First photo, after removal.

Second photo shows the hardest process of taking off the gummy adhesive... Very time consuming. Naptha and cotton balls, but a bare finger works best to get it up.

Third photo shows the new plate with blue protective film. I made 3 mistakes so I know for next time.
1. While tracing the new plate design, with black marker, I was near the guitar checking dimensions and drop the stupid marker on the guitar. I quickly rubbed it out with water but it was really dumb mistake.
2. While cutting the Golpeador the scissors I used were not super sharp and cause a little imperfection on the edge. Very frustrating.
3. The worst of all, I thought it would be easier than putting a full plate on but it was actually much harder because the masking tape trick, marking your positions, is not super accurate when you dealing with a perfect seam alignment. So I was off by a fraction of a millimeter and after sticking down near the bridge, I realized it but it was already too late. So I just put it on and the seam shows the imperfection. Probably next change I will just do it again with rulers or something, or maybe change the top half too.

So the last picture shows the finished job but at least the seam is camouflaged by the strings.

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Blondie#2

 

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
So it's that time again to change the Golpeador, this time on my 3rd most played guitar the 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso. ...... It came off pretty easy thank god. No harm to original finish.


And the winner of the biggest balls goes to...

Wow, wouldn' t even attempt that on my cheapest guitar.
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drhildr

 

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to burnsbyrne

You are a brave and determined man - hats off to you for that job!
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Anders Eliasson

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to burnsbyrne

Thanks for posting your experiences.
It can be hard for the nerves to take of a tapplate. Lacquer and varnish is not the biggest deal, but French polished guitars can be difficult and if they have cedar tops even more.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 27 2016 9:04:57
 
Ricardo

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to Anders Eliasson

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Thanks for posting your experiences.
It can be hard for the nerves to take of a tapplate. Lacquer and varnish is not the biggest deal, but French polished guitars can be difficult and if they have cedar tops even more.


It's very sad that the guitars we love to play flamenco on the most, will need the change so often. I also feel bad about guitar strings and tuners...entropy is a fact of life.

The cool thing is that a new Golpeador makes it look and feel like a brand new guitar, which for me is very inspiring. Learning how to do this thing myself has really relieved stress.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 27 2016 16:34:16
 
tijeretamiel

 

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

It's very sad that the guitars we love to play flamenco on the most, will need the change so often. I also feel bad about guitar strings and tuners...entropy is a fact of life.

The cool thing is that a new Golpeador makes it look and feel like a brand new guitar, which for me is very inspiring. Learning how to do this thing myself has really relieved stress.


Well said.

Great work on the replacement (again)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 27 2016 22:41:20
 
Ricardo

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to Ricardo

4th installment, my prized Conde negra. This time I had the help of a student, I wanted to show him how it was done. The two of us completed the whole job in 1.5hr! We used patience but now thatI know how to do it, it went super efficiently and I must admit the cleanest most perfect one I have done yet! Naphtha, Q-tips and cotton balls.







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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 9 2016 19:12:24
 
RobJe

 

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RE: Golpeador removal (in reply to Ricardo

I like this thread. Learning from your own mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is even better!

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