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nhills

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Guitar Pictures 

If you enjoy looking at pictures of guitars (many of them flamencos) , check this out (just click on the .htm name):

Guitars

Cheers,
Norman

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 10 2007 22:42:41
 
jrabbani

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to nhills

cool site

anyone else look at guitars as if it were porn?

i sure do
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 6:46:15
 
Per Hallgren

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to jrabbani

quote:

anyone else look at guitars as if it were porn?


Do you really mean that?

He who compares a guitar with a woman has not slept with a guitar or had a woman on his lap.

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 9:13:33
 
Per Hallgren

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to nhills

Sorry about the joke jrabbani. I know what you mean and I do it also, but maybe not as porn...

By the way, does anyone know how to make the middle section of the HyA head as in this http://www.auranet.jp/SALON/GUITAR/aguado1971.htm ? Obviously some kind of carving tool, but which and how?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 10:17:15
 
aarongreen

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

Hi Per,
You would use a punch to create the stippling effect. Basically a pointed tool that you tap with a hammer. I would ask Richard Brune for more specifics if you are interested in trying it out.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 12:20:10
 
jrabbani

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

quote:

Sorry about the joke jrabbani.

its stupid humor on my part
carry on

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 12:39:21
 
r0bbie

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

Hi Per,

I do a lot of quoting Courtnall lately.... but he writes about it and it just one sentence, its a flat surface with textured paint on it.

Perhaps you already knew and if not, maybe it helps.

Rob.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 13:12:18
 
Per Hallgren

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to nhills

quote:

its stupid humor on my part
carry on


I can't. It was my only one...

rObbie, lol.

Aaron, thanks for the tip. I should have thought about it myself but I was obviously too busy embarrassing myself. I made a try in a haste as in the picture:



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 13:55:32
 
TANúñez

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

Per did you do that just now? Your post asking how to do this was at May 11 '07 11:17:15 AM and this post was at May 11 '07 2:55:32. Not bad man. That looks great. Did you use a punch?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 14:32:27
 
Per Hallgren

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to TANúñez

The head was done earlier today but the punch work I did after reading Aaron's post. I reshaped an old nail punch to a slightly more narrow point, took a hammer and punched. I don't think it took more than 15 minutes to do actually. I found that hitting with the hammer two or three blows per second while moving the punch constantly gave a nice random pattern and was the fastest way to do it.

The picture below shows my head as it has been the last 13 years. It is made with similar design as the common Torres/Hauser design but I make it three dimensional. But since it is quite difficult to french polish it I have started to think about other ways to do it. The punch is very much easier todo than a good french polish on such a narrow three dimensional surface but I will probably try to refine the design somewhat. This first try look a little crude I think.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 14:45:38
 
TANúñez

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

Both ways look great. I like that punched design though. It adds a little something.

French Polishing is the next thing I want to take the time to learn. I'm tired of the lacquer fumes. Is it difficult to French Polish insides the tuner slots?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 11 2007 15:12:25
 
Per Hallgren

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to TANúñez

quote:

French Polishing is the next thing I want to take the time to learn. I'm tired of the lacquer fumes. Is it difficult to French Polish insides the tuner slots?


I think french polishing is little as learning to ride a bicycle. It is not that difficult to learn to do a descent FP or keep on the road, but to "win Tour de France" you need to practice a lot.

I think it is one of the most enjoyable processes involved in guitarmaking. As Gene Clarke (the American flamenco and classical builder) once said: "If you are into french polishing you never get a need for go fishing"

Tom, I don't know how much you know about the process. There is a good video/DVD by Ron Fernandez that shows all the basic techniques. There is also a very good webpage at Milburn guitars that describe the whole process quite in depth. Finally, some years (maybe five) ago the American Luthiery magazine had a very good article by Cyndy Burton written after she had attended a french polishing class with Gene Clark. With information from those three sources anyone can learn to do a descent FP.

To answer your specific question. No, it is not "difficult" to polish inside the tuner slots. It takes some time though since it is not possible to polish with the common muñeca-technique. Use a cloth that is folded to a suitable size and thickness.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 12 2007 8:38:30
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

Per,
Maldonado has a similar effect as my guitar in this link.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/Pedro_Maldonado_for_Sale/m_55162/p_1/tmode_1/smode_1/tm.htm

I think the head stock you made looks great.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 12 2007 12:03:44
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

Per,

What do you think of making that head stock in reverse, the centre section out with the sides back?
Might mean the head angle with the machines has to increase a little.
Just a thought.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 12 2007 12:08:03
 
TANúñez

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Per Hallgren

quote:

I think french polishing is little as learning to ride a bicycle. It is not that difficult to learn to do a descent FP or keep on the road, but to "win Tour de France" you need to practice a lot.

I think it is one of the most enjoyable processes involved in guitarmaking. As Gene Clarke (the American flamenco and classical builder) once said: "If you are into french polishing you never get a need for go fishing"

Tom, I don't know how much you know about the process. There is a good video/DVD by Ron Fernandez that shows all the basic techniques. There is also a very good webpage at Milburn guitars that describe the whole process quite in depth. Finally, some years (maybe five) ago the American Luthiery magazine had a very good article by Cyndy Burton written after she had attended a french polishing class with Gene Clark. With information from those three sources anyone can learn to do a descent FP.

To answer your specific question. No, it is not "difficult" to polish inside the tuner slots. It takes some time though since it is not possible to polish with the common muñeca-technique. Use a cloth that is folded to a suitable size and thickness.


Hi Per,

Now I really have to give FP a shot. Seems like it would be relaxing. It must be nice completing the construction of the guitar then seeing it's beauty come out as you start to FP. I'll have to get the Fernandez video. I have browsed through the Milburn tutorial. Very informative with a lot of detail.

Have you always French Polished or have you used lacquer as well?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 12 2007 14:44:11
 
Per Hallgren

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to Jim Opfer

Jim,
I think of the head design on guitars as one of two specific details (the other is the label) telling who has made the instrument. Looking at the Maldonado head we can see some details that are constant and found on all his top instruments while other details are made as individual design elements, i.e. extra decoration. Since my head design is quite similar to many other guitarmaker's I like to stay with the three dimensional design since that is what distinguish my design from for example Hauser's. But I will think over what you propose and see what I can come up with. I have a couple of ideas that I will try in the near future.

It feels as if I have hijacked this thread. Sorry about that. Thanks Norman for posting the link to the big collection of guitar pictures.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 12 2007 14:55:33
 
Sherman

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to nhills

Per,
I really like your head design, but change is good also.

Sherman
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 15 2007 19:05:00
 
a_arnold

 

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RE: Guitar Pictures (in reply to nhills

Per,
I think your old design (without the punching) is very classy. I prefer it to the punched version. But I can see the center would be hard to polish. Could you polish that part separately as an insert and then glue it in? Seems like a place you could put mosaic inlay. . .

Do you have any pics of that head with pegs?

By the way the guitar salon site has some magnificent Garcias with the 3-dimensional look combined with punching. Here's one:

http://www.auranet.jp/SALON/GUITAR/garcia22.htm

Tony Arnold
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