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ruger9

 

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Help identifying guitar- TATAY 

A friend gave this guitar to me as a birthday gift. I know nothing about it, the only info I have is the sticker inside.

I haven't started googling yet, I thought I'd ask here to see if anyone has any insight.









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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 11 2022 15:37:19
 
Stu

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to ruger9

Have you googled Vicente Tatay?

I know nothing of this maker but have found some interesting reading.

The headstock stamp is new on me, but I'm no expert.
One article I read said that is the rarest of the headstock stamps on tatay guitars.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 12 2022 15:06:28
 
orsonw

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to Stu

quote:

I know nothing of this maker...


'Maker' might imply a luthier. This is a Valencia factory guitar.
You can find out more here:

https://guitarrasvalencia.wordpress.com/telesforo-research/guitars/

Tatay labels. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z211957noGWguw9l8b5wDYsvdBlb3lQ3/view
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 12 2022 18:14:49
 
ruger9

 

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to orsonw

According to the first link, the "family tree", my label shows it as a 1932-1935... which would be before the factory, no? Vincente did not retire until 1942, when his son took over.

And the 2nd link seems to concur that the headstock stamp on mine was also from the era when Vincente himself built them, and they were stamped for export.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 12 2022 19:29:32
 
orsonw

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to ruger9

quote:

my label shows it as a 1932-1935... which would be before the factory, no?


At this time it is not the fully automated larger factory it would become. It would have been a small factory type production workshop with several people including Vicente, the sons and others building as many cheaper student level guitars as possible.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 12 2022 20:01:06
 
RobJe

 

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to orsonw

In August 1962 I spent some time in bed with a bronchial infection on the top floor of Literato Azorin 11 - next door to the address for Tatay. From my bedroom window I could see a small courtyard with cheap guitars hanging up to dry. Looking on Google Earth Pro I think the courtyard is still there. I had a newly purchased Madrid guitar under my bed, but I felt too lousy to play it!

In the early 60's I remember plenty of cheap Tatay guitars for sale for as little as 3GBP. At that time, you could get a good flamenco guitar in Spain for about 35GBP - Arcangel Fernandez for 60GBP (with a bit of a wait) - Ramirez a bit more.

The Tatay in the picture looks like one of their better models made from solid timbers.

Rob
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 13 2022 22:12:29
 
davewphx

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to ruger9

Look at the unusual way they ended the fretboard near the sound hole, I've never seen that before. RobJe thats a great story. It's amazing you can still remember that from 62. Those price examples you give are also incredible for that time. What did it cost to rent a nice room for a month in that area back then? Just curious. That must have been a great time to travel.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 14 2022 2:25:49
 
ruger9

 

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to RobJe

Wow, what a cool story! It would be interesting if there was a way to tell if this guitar has solid or laminated wood.

I was in the market for a nylon, I was looking at the Cordoba Fusions... I am primarily an electric player, and the narrower neck would likely suit me better. However, since being gifted this guitar, and I know some of it's history now, I will definitely keep it and play it. The boat neck (no truss rod) will take some getting used to, but that's part of the experience... I need to clean it up, and replace the nut at least (it has been replaced previously, but it looks like a hack job- it's too low, I imagine the hack was trying to lower the action in 1st position).
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 14 2022 12:18:12
 
Ricardo

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RE: Help identifying guitar- TATAY (in reply to ruger9

Wow! It is authentic! I have one of these, I loved it. The first guitar I picked up at home as a teenager. It looks all original! You could command a used price or realize an auction sale upwards of like $40 or even $50 bucks!!!

Seriously these are good guitars, I love mine.

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