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RobF

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Pali

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Copies are useless, I was never struck by copying anything.

I think part of this comes from marketing, on the one hand, and customer push, on the other. Also, it seems to be more a thing with classical guitars than flamenco. As long as people want to call their copy a “Reyes” or “Barbero” or “Hauser” or “Whatever”, and pretend it’s the real thing, and makers are willing to fulfill this demand, then the situation will persist. But, most of the makers here on the Foro are making guitars of their own design. Perhaps influenced by others, and using plans is also encouraged for the new makers as a learning tool, but most serious makers on here are not copyists, I think. Maybe I’m wrong on this, however.

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I don't care having a flamenco guitar and the cigar that Fidel Castro used to smoke passes under the strings, as long as it's comfortable and it sounds flamenco, I don't care what others think.

Pali, you can say this all you want, but that doesn’t make it true. The problem is if you can pass Fidel’s cigar under the strings the guitar will likely not be comfortable to play or sound flamenco. If a guitar meeting that test does end up being liked by a flamenco player, then you’re right, and that’s OK, at least for that player. But I think it’s making life difficult for a maker to go this direction, as lots of players might complain or start bleeding all over the place and then the only way you will be able to stop them from crying is to let them smoke Fidel’s cigar, which I know you were saving for a special occasion.
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Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

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Pali, you can say this all you want, but that doesn’t make it true. The problem is if you can pass Fidel’s cigar under the strings the guitar will likely not be comfortable to play or sound flamenco. If a guitar meeting that test does end up being liked by a flamenco player, then you’re right, and that’s OK, at least for that player. But I think it’s making life difficult for a maker to go this direction, as lots of players might complain or start bleeding all over the place and then the only way you will be able to stop them from crying is to let them smoke Fidel’s cigar, which I know you were saving for a special occasion.


You don't want me to give you a demonstration, right? I don't have much time but ....... I have no problem and recreate what I'm saying ...

I have experimented with everything that has occurred to me, I have done unthinkable things and that teaches you a lot of everything, as I told you I do not follow anyone, I just have fun as I have never done before.....

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 16 2021 9:45:44
 
RobF

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I spent the last 25 years working as a workshop manager and technical teacher specialized in orthopedics, helping people, I worked for a large company that allowed me to have expensive hobbies such as making musical instruments and many other things.

I think there’s a lot of interesting topics you can post here that would be very enjoyable to see. You could post about your shop, which has a lot of interesting machinery, another post could be about shoe making, which a lot of people here are interested in, and another about tool making, such as the mini hand planes. I personally would really like to see more posts about the violin family work, and of course, more posts about your guitar projects, because that’s what the Lutherie section is all about. So, lots of good topics. It’s fun.

I don’t agree about the dimensions you describe for flamenco guitars, but that’s OK, you can make your flamenco guitars your way, I’ll make mine in my way, and it’s all good. As long as people enjoy playing them, that’s all that really counts. But, I thought when you first posted here you said you were new to making flamenco guitars because you mostly made classical guitars. Almost like you wanted some response or feedback from the makers on here. Even if that’s not the case, everything is still fine and it is interesting to see your projects.
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Schieper

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to ernandez R

I just finished making a 75 pages maintenance contract for Industrial machines. Does that count for something arround here?

It uses all the letters of the alphabet :-)
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ernandez R

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

Pali,

When I started building my first guitar more then two years ago, I was told by luthiers I respected to build this design or that design and stick with it many times to learn how it makes a good guitar, then build many of another design until I understand what makes a good design. I understand the value of such a pathway and see it’s usefulness.
But! But that is not me, not for me, I take the path less traveled, sure it might be muddy and filled with stones and dead ends but for me that is life, I have never been a drone worker bee to follow along without my own ideas, but that doesn’t mean I haven’t stung my own ass in the process a few times.
I’m building two new Flamenca and two classical now, slower this time then I’ve done in the past, thinking more, less a lesson about how to fit wood together and more “why?”
Reading all the books I could get my hands on and guitar forums blogs etc I’ve notice so many ways almost one for each builder that leads to the same point, not so much a perfection but rather a variety of pleasing instruments to fit the ear and eyes of many players.
Sure there are fixed requirements like the low strung hight Ricardo mentions for his flamenco but still plays a guitar with strings too high and bloodied his fingers for the love of his art, it’s his choice, it’s our choice, and thank Orphis for gifting us sticks and strings to work our magic.

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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy,
doesn't have to be fast,
should have some meat on the bones,
can be raw or well done,
as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 16 2021 21:04:23
 
Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

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But, I thought when you first posted here you said you were new to making flamenco guitars because you mostly made classical guitars. Almost like you wanted some response or feedback from the makers on here. Even if that’s not the case, everything is still fine and it is interesting to see your projects.


I'm sorry but I've been reviewing what I've written and I can't find anything you say, I've never said that I was starting to make guitars ..... I also don't hope anyone says anything, I just participate like any other member.
It is true I can upload many things but they are not related to the thread that interests us all, the flamenco guitar.
This answer also serves "ernandez" I have never talked about making an untouchable guitar with impossible heights, I have not written any of that, you must remember that I am a musician and like anyone I need a comfortable instrument to play hours and hours, ( although I have not played for many years,) no I would think of mounting a guitar with a height of 7 mm at the 12th fret, it's absurd.

When I speak I refer to changes in measurements, rings, lobes, evidence of the bending of the lid using previously shaped rods and not forced on the hearth ... changes that will not affect the comfort of the instrument in any way.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2021 17:04:02
 
Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

A beautiful boots...



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2021 17:22:43
 
Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

A beautiful bespoke chukka boots imitating the lasts of Antonio Meccariello, the lasts are also handmade.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2021 17:30:00
 
RobF

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Pali

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RobF: But, I thought when you first posted here you said you were new to making flamenco guitars because you mostly made classical guitars. Almost like you wanted some response or feedback from the makers on here. Even if that’s not the case, everything is still fine and it is interesting to see your projects.
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Pali: I'm sorry but I've been reviewing what I've written and I can't find anything you say, I've never said that I was starting to make guitars ..... I also don't hope anyone says anything, I just participate like any other member.


I think this is what caused me to misunderstand you....

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Pali: I have not played guitar for 30 years, I made this one for a friend, I had to read something about flamenco so that he could hear its sound, I'm a classical musician as I said before,


It’s all good with me. Not everybody comes on the Lutherie section for the same reasons. Like I said, you have many interesting things you can post about and people will enjoy reading about your hobbies.
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Pali

 

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More pictures...





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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2021 17:51:12
 
Pali

 

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More....
with the customer...









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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2021 17:59:45
 
Pali

 

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Ok?.....









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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2021 18:10:02
 
Pali

 

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And from time to time my head also goes away ...ahahahahaha



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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Pali

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I'm sorry but I've been reviewing what I've written and I can't find anything you say, I've never said that I was starting to make guitars .....


I think you came into the “Classical vs Flamenco” guitar topic claiming people had the wrong idea and a blindfold would surprise people...I agreed with you, but the impression you gave at that time was that you make CLASSICAL guitars only. The fact that flamenco folks have used your guitars with tap plates taped on or whatever means you don’t build flamenco guitars, and that is totally fine. But it also implies that you are NEW TO BUILDING FLAMENCO STYLE GUITARS. This could be a false statement if you have in fact built guitars specifically for flamenco and NOT for classical. Like it or not this is reality. If your opinion is a flamenco guitar IS a classical guitar with a tap plate, well, that is fine too. But it still means you did not build with flamenco music as the exclusive intent for the instrument.

Nice boots!

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Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Ricardo

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I think you came into the “Classical vs Flamenco” guitar topic claiming people had the wrong idea and a blindfold would surprise people...I agreed with you, but the impression you gave at that time was that you make CLASSICAL guitars only. The fact that flamenco folks have used your guitars with tap plates taped on or whatever means you don’t build flamenco guitars, and that is totally fine. But it also implies that you are NEW TO BUILDING FLAMENCO STYLE GUITARS. This could be a false statement if you have in fact built guitars specifically for flamenco and NOT for classical. Like it or not this is reality. If your opinion is a flamenco guitar IS a classical guitar with a tap plate, well, that is fine too. But it still means you did not build with flamenco music as the exclusive intent for the instrument.

Nice boots!


Ricardo Ricardo Ricardo man, please do not be so hard on me, enjoy the pictures that I upload, the internet and the keyboard are very cold, I am cheerful and outgoing and I never get angry with anyone, if that is your thought, perfect, it is very respectable.
I started making flamenco guitars when there was no internet, no published books ... so you can get an idea ...
I played and went to buy strings at Reyes' house, even knowing that they were more expensive than in music stores, but I liked the smell of cypress and seeing his workshop.
I told Manuel Reyes Sr. that I made guitars and he made me take it first because he wanted to see it and it was very funny, because he didn't believe it, I have a very funny anecdote.
He told me: "I wish my first guitar would have been like half of this, I had to throw them into the water ..... and I didn't keep any, now I regret it, keep it .... that was a compliment to me. He gave me three caps for the bridge and I made friends with him, then I met or treated his son in orthopedics, he had some problems and he was still not working with his father .....
Then he sat on the chair and checked the tuning .... hahahahaha asked me how I got the scale ....the guitar tuned perfectly in all registers, it was a compensated scale without moving the bridge ...... hahaha it was fun, today I still have it in my workshop ....... I feel nostalgic for how fast it is time passes .... good memories, very good .......



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2021 20:26:36
 
Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

What do you think about a guitar in cypress with a cedar top?
Relax, they have the required measurements and there is no room for a cigarette under the bridge ...







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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 6 2021 9:34:10
 
RobF

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Pali

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Relax, they have the required measurements and there is no room for a cigarette under the bridge ...


What kind of cigarette?
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Pali

 

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What kind of cigarette?


Ahahahahahah like fidel castro............... nooooooo I was just joking, when I finish them I upload them to see how they sound

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Pali

I have to say that in the photo are the first decent looking pair of monk strap shoes I have seen in many years.

During WW II and afterwards, members of the U.S. Air Force distinguished themselves from others in the military by certain "out of uniform" articles of clothing. Among them were shoes.

My father sometimes wore monk straps, at other times some that resembled these, but made correctly:



His were made by Abram Rios e Hijos, Raymondville, Texas. Rios mainly made boots for the Texas ranch trade and fancy ones for the Hollywood cowboys, but they also did shoes for people whose families had been customers for a period of time,

The last generation of the Rios who were in the business sold the name to a small factory, I believe in Laredo, Texas. It has become difficult to get properly fitted boots and shoes in Texas.

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ernandez R

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

Pali,
Vary nice. On the back of the one with the wider dark detail, is it herringbone?

Last two I shellacked I had taped off the bridge location but didn't like how bumpy the shellac was around the tape so I pulled the tape off of one just to see. Of course the shellac evened out after a few more sessions over the tape. I just found it a lot easier to slice the edge of the tape then pull the tape rather then masking and scraping, I cut a single edge razor blade in half, then sanding. Wondering if you tried taping first and decided you like shellacking without it?

I do like how you shellac before fitting the fretboard. The top next to the fret board used to give me a lot of problems but I have it figured out now. Still I might try it your way and shellack first.

Looking forward to a sound sample.

Oh ya, what strings do you prefer?

I just purchased my first Red Cedar for tops so I'm excited to use it on a future build. Do you brace your cedar tops differently then spruce? I understand most are making the top just a little thicker with Cedar then spruce. Do you find this to be true?

About the shoes, they are amazing, like Richard mentioned the black ones with the ankle straps and gold buckles are super cool, just think how good I would look and sound playing guitar with them on my feet, perhaps a Cuban cigar too but I don't smoke ;) Do you make them custom one at a time to fit the foot exactly? They say it takes about 200 hours to build a guitar if that is so then how long does it take to make a nice pair of boots like the black ones mentioned?

HR

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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy,
doesn't have to be fast,
should have some meat on the bones,
can be raw or well done,
as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.

www.instagram.com/threeriversguitars
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 7 2021 6:53:06
 
Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Richard Jernigan

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During WW II and afterwards, members of the U.S. Air Force distinguished themselves from other members of the military by certain "out of uniform" articles of clothing. Among them were shoes.

My father sometimes wore monk straps, at other times some that resembled these, but made correctly:



His were made by Abram Rios e Hijos, Raymondville, Texas. Rios mainly made boots for the Texas ranch trade and fancy ones for the Hollywood cowboys, but they also did shoes for people whose families had been customers for a period of time,

The last generation of the Rios who were in the business sold the name to a small factory, I believe in Laredo, Texas. It has become difficult to get properly fitted boots and shoes in Texas.


They are very beautiful and appreciated boots in the world of fashion, today they are called "jodhpours boots". The Carmina footwear firm manufactures a model in a very beautiful design last.
The best known and most traditional boots here are the black ones that I have uploaded, they are called chelsea boots and here they are called one-piece boots, the old flamingos used them a lot with a slight change in the heel and without buckles.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 7 2021 15:42:45
 
Pali

 

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Vary nice. On the back of the one with the wider dark detail, is it herringbone?

Last two I shellacked I had taped off the bridge location but didn't like how bumpy the shellac was around the tape so I pulled the tape off of one just to see. Of course the shellac evened out after a few more sessions over the tape. I just found it a lot easier to slice the edge of the tape then pull the tape rather then masking and scraping, I cut a single edge razor blade in half, then sanding. Wondering if you tried taping first and decided you like shellacking without it?

I do like how you shellac before fitting the fretboard. The top next to the fret board used to give me a lot of problems but I have it figured out now. Still I might try it your way and shellack first.

Looking forward to a sound sample.

Oh ya, what strings do you prefer?

I just purchased my first Red Cedar for tops so I'm excited to use it on a future build. Do you brace your cedar tops differently then spruce? I understand most are making the top just a little thicker with Cedar then spruce. Do you find this to be true?

About the shoes, they are amazing, like Richard mentioned the black ones with the ankle straps and gold buckles are super cool, just think how good I would look and sound playing guitar with them on my feet, perhaps a Cuban cigar too but I don't smoke ;) Do you make them custom one at a time to fit the foot exactly? They say it takes about 200 hours to build a guitar if that is so then how long does it take to make a nice pair of boots like the black ones mentioned?


In the first question, do you mean the ornament on the bottom or back of the guitar?
They are two strips of rosewood and have two white-black colors on each side, the cut of the reeds is at a closed angle.

With regard to the bridge, do not worry, when I go to place it I will take some pictures. It is easier for me to varnish the entire lid, when I finish I simply place the bridge and put adhesive tape around it, then I scratch or sand that area and that's it.

I am not a professional varnishing, the corner areas were not to my liking so I varnish without placing the fingerboard, I leave the lid in the absence of a few layers and finish it when I glue the fingerboard and they remain perfect.
There are many luthiers who do not varnish themselves, Reyes for example had a specialized varnish here called "charolista" he also told me that his daughter was learning to varnish .... I don't know if she now varnishes her brother ..... about this Many years ago.

I've tried a lot of strings, but in order not to lengthen the ones I like the most are the D'Addario EJ 45 for classic and EJ 46, I don't like savarez very much, the carbon ones don't convince me either ... but that doesn't mean I don't place the ones the customer wants.

You know? Let's see it's complicated, I don't care to work them, maybe the cedar is more grateful for its speed and response but ......... the spruce ....... is like the runner that keeps the pace , he doses his forces and finally wins the race, I do not know if I explain myself well ...
With regard to the thick ones, everything depends on their rigidity, a few tenths higher or lower ..... I am not obsessed with the narrowest vein either ..... it is complicated, this is like women ... each one has the charm of it.

With regard to footwear, fashion is a passion for almost everyone. As I told to the partner, the flamingos, non-gypsies and gypsies related to the world of horses, guitar, dance, peñas ..... they always used that type of black boots, most of them without a golden buckle, only with elastics on them. The sides were very traditional among them, in fact the dance boots are based on that model, modifying the heel and a large part of its assembly to make them lighter, underneath it is filled with studs on the toes and heels to mark well the rhythms of the compass .... but above the cut is the same.

I have been working for many years making all kinds of exclusive custom-made footwear. It is a very very complicated job, there are not many craftsmen in the world who know how to do everything, including the client's own lasts, most of them need other officers to complete their work and that represents a huge problem especially for the client, I learned each and every one of the functions, design, cutting, molds, assembly, hand-sewn, finishing ..... I am passionate about it.
I have used the translator, if you do not understand something I will be happy to answer you in another way.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 7 2021 16:33:39
 
ernandez R

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Pali

Pali,
Thank you for taking the time to describe your skills. We are all craftsmen with many skills but always wanting to learn more.

Yes, I was asking about the back seam on your latest guitar. Perhaps a closeup photo?

I just installed frets on four necks, I do it before attaching the neck to the body.

Many spring chores outside as the snow and ice are almost gone up here in Alaska so my guitar building must slow down.

I did acquire some Birch for ribs and backs and I’m trying a new way to season the wood using vacuum to extract moisture. The wood is wrapped and sealed in a bag with heating elements inside and a vacuum pump is used to lower the boiling point on the water so it comes out faster without having to use too much heat. It’s more complicated then that but a fun experiment as I have all the equipment anyway.

Other photo is bottom of two guitars made with the Birch that grows in our area. Some black walnut and the other lacewood with paper for the blue and white stripe also used in the perfling. Both are in a shop to sell, hopefully someone will fall in love with them

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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy,
doesn't have to be fast,
should have some meat on the bones,
can be raw or well done,
as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.

www.instagram.com/threeriversguitars
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 8 2021 7:08:46
 
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I have been working for many years making all kinds of exclusive custom-made footwear.

This means you are a true cordwainer. It is even more interesting as the word “Cordwainer” is originally derived from the city in which you live.

Just out of curiosity, what word is used in Spain to describe a maker of custom footwear? The word “Cordwainer” is not in common usage in English any longer, probably because shoemakers are often erroneously referred to as being cobblers, or are just called shoemakers, instead.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 8 2021 12:37:20
 
Pali

 

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This means you are a true cordwainer. It is even more interesting as the word “Cordwainer” is originally derived from the city in which you live.

Just out of curiosity, what word is used in Spain to describe a maker of custom footwear? The word “Cordwainer” is not in common usage in English any longer, probably because shoemakers are often erroneously referred to as being cobblers, or are just called shoemakers, instead.


Indeed, the word is derived from "cordwain", or "cordovan", the leather produced in Córdoba, Spain. The term "cordwainer" was used as early as 1100 in England. Historically, there was a distinction between a cordwainer, who made luxury shoes and boots from the best leathers, and a shoemaker, who repaired them.

Here in Spain there is the term shoe repairman (repairer shoemaker) which would be cobbler in English and the other term is shoemaker specialist in footwear as it would correspond to shoemaker in English.

I also specialized in orthopedics and directed the section of one of the most important companies in the manufacture of custom footwear and orthopedic insoles including for large deformities, polio sequelae, amputations ..... It was a very important social work for me and for society since there are not many professionals who know how to do that work but it was very hard work ...... to see the suffering of the people, the pain, the operations ......

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

All in all this is a really funny topic.
Anyway Pali, you look like a really talented and skilled guy.

I’d like to add that every famous firm of flamenco guitar has their own sound/playability thing that makes their guitar recognisable and the players to like it. The more you get into it the more the differences are evident for a fussy player.
The reason why the listener doesn’t catch the differences as well as the player is because the player is behind the guitar: he catches better the bass frequencies and perceives much better the attack of the note, while a metre away in front of the guitar the note content develops with different harmonics.
I cannot appreciate when I listen myself singing either: at the end it’s the same stuff.

I know about the blind tests etc but at the end of the day I think they are deceiving. I care much more about what I listen and the feeling I have when I play than what the people get.
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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Echi

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All in all this is a really funny topic.
Anyway Pali, you look like a really talented and skilled guy.

I’d like to add that every famous firm of flamenco guitar has their own sound/playability thing that makes their guitar recognisable and the players to like it. The more you get into it the more the differences are evident for a fussy player.
The reason why the listener doesn’t catch the differences as well as the player is because the player is behind the guitar: he catches better the bass frequencies and perceives much better the attack of the note, while a metre away in front of the guitar the note content develops with different harmonics.
I cannot appreciate when I listen myself singing either: at the end it’s the same stuff.

I know about the blind tests etc but at the end of the day I think they are deceiving. I care much more about what I listen and the feeling I have when I play than what the people get.



It was not my intention to mix threads that have nothing to do with flamenco and guitars but some guys wanted to see it. It's fun for me too.

For the rest I agree with you, it is one of the things that I like the most, finishing a guitar and playing with it ..... you never know how it will sound ... but I also like to listen to the sound from the other side so there is always someone to touch them .....

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to Echi

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I care much more about what I listen and the feeling I have when I play than what the people get.


I love the sound of my guitar, but I am not a good player. When I lend it to a professional friend and hear it on stage: estoy siempre flipao
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Pali

 

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to ernandez R

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Sí, estaba preguntando por la costura trasera de tu última guitarra. ¿Quizás una foto de primer plano?

Acabo de instalar trastes en cuatro cuellos, lo hago antes de unir el mástil al cuerpo.

Muchas tareas de primavera afuera ya que la nieve y el hielo casi han desaparecido aquí en Alaska, por lo que la construcción de mi guitarra debe disminuir la velocidad.

Adquirí algo de abedul para las costillas y el lomo y estoy probando una nueva forma de sazonar la madera usando vacío para extraer la humedad. La madera se envuelve y sella en una bolsa con elementos calefactores en el interior y se utiliza una bomba de vacío para bajar el punto de ebullición del agua para que salga más rápido sin tener que usar demasiado calor. Es más complicado que eso, pero un experimento divertido, ya que tengo todo el equipo de todos modos.

La otra foto es la parte inferior de dos guitarras hechas con el Abedul que crece en nuestra zona. Un poco de nogal negro y el otro de madera de encaje con papel para la raya azul y blanca también se usa en el perfling. Ambos están en una tienda para vender, ojalá alguien se enamore de ellos.


Very nice!! I like a lot.
Sorry for delay Herandez but yesterday was Sunday and I didn't feel like going to the workshop!
I have to lower the weight of all the photographs and this is a ...... I'm going to do it and now I'll upload them.

Fortunately here we do not have humidity problems, it remains stable almost all year round, some winter days simply with a heater you bring the humidity to 50%, in summer if it drops a lot, but with a good humidifier you take them to that percentage easily.

Accumulating wood was the first decision I made, seeing what the teachers said I was right, so I have not bought anything for many years, I have the best drying room and together with the time that it has been here, everything is crystallized, I think it has been there for almost 30 years ..... During the time that I was working on other things, I made few instruments and only bought and accumulated ....... my wife told me that I was going to marry my woods hahahahaha ........ anyway ....... I'm going to upload the photos .....

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RE: Birdseye maple. (in reply to RobF

Here you are some pictures....It is Spanish cypress, to take advantage of it I decorate it in white, black, red, with rosewood strips ... or also without anything, with three pieces ...









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