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RE: Luthiers - can y'all help this dude?
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Mark2
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RE: Luthiers - can y'all help this dude? (in reply to pink)
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I guess I'm old school too. I was a full time musician when I was in my 20's. The internet didn't exist so the present situation would not have been possible. If it was, I still wouldn't have taken to the internet to make the offer the guy in question did. I guess it's cultural. I'd have sold something, would have gotten a day gig if need be, bought a beater till I could afford a better one, etc. The fact that the fellow is a good guitarist has little to nothing to do with anything in my view. If he's a pro, then he knows how to make money with his playing. As to his offer, let's get real-the likely benefit to a builder is unknown. Maybe he will promote the heck out of the builder in gratitude. I really don't know. I do know that if I was a full timer who was a relative unknown I'd not expect a free guitar, because I'd realize it's not an attractive deal for the maker. That Stephen has offered a new guitar to this gent -well, he hit the lottery in my view. And I hope he talks up Stephen's work every freakin day for the rest of his life. quote:
ORIGINAL: pink Now I can totally understand anyone of us questioning an online piece of film footage from a person asking total strangers to fund a trip around Spain and a new guitar for them to learn flamenco on ....not many people would throw a penny a that let alone hundreds of euro's , however this is a totally different request based on an immediate need from a professional musician who is using this channel of enquiry to facilitate sponsorship as a business proposition which will have the potential to benefit two parties ....much like a racing driver seeking sponsorship for tyres and engine parts to get through a season. Any prospective sponsor/luthier is going to,in the first instance ,check out the credentials of the musician in need and in this case a 10 minute Google search brings up loads of checkable info . First port of call...contact where he works and when verified consider the benefits of perhaps hundreds of guitarists during the course of a year being exposed to one of your guitars at every lesson they take with this guy. Secondly then find out that he is a performing flamenco with a grounding in classical guitar from a very young age and then in his middle teens he finds flamenco ,studies it and then ends up teaching it at one of the places he was once a student. Then you find out that he also travels extensively to perform at venues and also performs through busking. Furthermore you find out he has recorded two self funded albums , has also studied and become fluent in four languages and really does on finally meeting with him exude integrity. At this stage, (as too it was after a ten minute Google search ),its totally obvious that this guy is a total slouch who purely wants to freeload his way through life!! The young man is using this online platform as probably ONE OF MANY ROUTES to help him continue to perform and earn a living. From experience of meeting with him on several occasions, he is very likely to have another job too to help him through although I can't verify this. Why would he ask for help in such a way? Maybe he is trying to do this without leaning on family and friends,I understand his family live in UK so he doesn't have a home base in Seville to my knowledge and also I'm sure he would expect any business person to be pretty thorough when checking him out so why would he need to explain every element of his life at this stage....those questions would definitely follow!! Now if I've upset anyone by using the 'fukked' word then good....also I stand by my statement about some people being ungracious and some people need things capitalizing ,often more than once , to help then move back to being a little more reasonable. Love and kisses Best pink
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