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Pimientito
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From: Marbella
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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Morante)
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(FULL DISCOGRAPHY LISTED ON PAGE 8) I have updated the list with all the singles and EPs I could find and put them in the original post . There are 2 versions of Entre dos Aguas and I dont know if the Dutch version is the same one as on the UK Paco album or if its the same as the Spanish version. It would be cool to know a bit more about the evolution of Entre dos Aguas. 7 INCH SINGLES and EPS El Camaron de la Isla- Fandangos, Bulerias, Alegrias, Tarantos (7” EP Mono) 1970 PHILIPS 62 24 005 El Camaron de la Isla- Tangos, Soleares, Bulerias por solea, Fandangos(7” EP Mono) 1970 PHILIPS 62 24 006 El Camaron de la Isla- Bulerias, Fandangos, Tientos Siguirillas(7” EP Mono) 1970 PHILIPS 62 24 007 El Camaron de la Isla- Solea, Granaina, Tangos, Fandangos (7” EP Mono) 1970 PHILIPS 62 24 011 El Camaron de la Isla- Bulerias, Tientos, Fandangos, Siguirillas(7” EP Mono) 1970 PHILIPS 62 24 012 El Camaron de la Isla-Romera, Taranto, Fandangos, Bulerias (7” EP Mono) 1970 PHILIPS 62 24 013 El Camaron de la Isla- Me La Tienes Controlá, En Espejo En Que Te Miras ,El Padre Santo De Roma, Estoy Cumpliendo Condena (7", EP) 1972 PHILIPS 62 24 031 El Camaron de la Isla y Paco de Lucia - Untitled (7” EP) 1972 PHILIPS 62 24 036 El Camaron de la Isla – Rosa Maria ( 7” single) Side B Vamos Nino pa la Bamba 1976 PHILIPS 60 29 351 El Camaron de la Isla – Mi Jaca que yo Tenia (7” EP mono) 1973 PHILIPS 62 24 053 El Camaron de la Isla – Caminito de Totana (7” EP) 1973 PHILIPS 62 24 054 Al Di Meola - Danza del sol Mediterraneo (7” single) side B Carrera con el Diablo en una Carrettera Espanola1977 CBS 5301 Interpreta A Manual de Falla (7” single) Side B Cancion de fuego Fatuo 1978 PHILIPS 69 29 422 El Virtuoso (12” promo -Netherlands) 1978 PHILIPS 68 30 302 Camaron – Tu amor para mi no es Fantasia (7”) Side B La Luz de Aquella farola1981 PHILIPS 60 29 545 Camaron - Como El Agua (7” single) Side B Gitana te Quiero 1981 PHILIPS 60 29 532 Camaron – Yo Vivo Enamorado (7”single) Side B-Yo soy el Viento 1983 PHILIPS 818 239 7 Camaron - Calle real (7”single)Side B Buleria de la Perla 1983 PHILPS 814 465-7 Camaron – Vivire (7”) Side B Mar Amargo 1984 PHILIPS 880 515-7 Rio Ancho (7”single) Side B- Ole (jaleos) 1976 PHILIPS 60 29 374 Almoraima (7”single) Side B- cueva del gato 1976 PHILIPS 60 29 357 Entre Dos Aguas (7”Spain) 1974 PHILIPS 60 29 261 Entre Dos Aguas (7” Netherlands) 1973 PHILIPS 60 29 261 Solo Quiero Caminar (7” single)Side B-Convite 1981 PHILIPS 60 29 531 Chanela (7”single) Side B-Montiño 1981 PHILIPS 60 29 518 Cancion de Amor (7" single) Side B- Almonte 1990 PHILIPS 878 236-7 John McLaughlin/Al di Meola – Aspan / Chiquito (7” promo) 1983 PHILIPS 812 899-7 John McLaughlin / Al di Meola - Friday night in San Fransisco (7” EP) Excerpts taken from the full abum 1981 PHILIPS 6847 004
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Date Mar. 15 2014 11:40:11
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Ricardo
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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)
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I was listening to Chiquitos a week or so before Paco died. Man it is a great album. (I have the CD pictured). Paco sounds like he has no thumb nail, but the playing is still great. He tosses in a G minor chord (por medio) in Solea Accompaniment which I am thinking aficionados might have thought was pretty crazy back then. quote:
These 12 tracks were then released again as an album in 1963 HH 10.218 and it was re packaged in 1983 as vinyl LP HISPAVOX 150001. Later available on CD in 2003 (EMI) Well, it doesn't make sense because the tracks on the disc, all 12 are HEAVY cantes...absolutely no buleria/fiesta gitana, no fandango de huelva, no tanguillo de cadiz, no bulerias por solea even. I would say the 1961 recordings are totally different. If I recall the story, they won the jerez prize in 1962, and with the money went to make their first record. Perhaps that was the LP but they had already recorded the EP's in the photo before the jerez contest? Here is track list: solea de cadiz tientos de cadiz tarantos siguiriya de M. Torre Solea de Alcala Malagueña de Mellizo Solea de triana serrana tientos de chacon malagueñas de chacon debla,martinete, y tona siguiriyas de chacon
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Date Mar. 26 2014 18:40:20
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mark indigo
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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Pimientito)
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Does anyone here know individual titles and tracklists for these Fosforito/Paco recordings listed? quote:
Fosforito 1968 BELTER EP 52 190 Fosforito 1969 BELTER LP 22 360 Fosforito 1970 BELTER EP 52 275 Fosforito 1970 BELTER EP 52 361 Fosforito 1970 BELTER EP 52 365 Fosforito 1978 OLIMPO LP 20.28 I a CD called "Cante Y Guitarra" which says it was recorded "1968/69 at Belter Studios" so I guess is the second recording from the list? I have a double CD "Selección Antológica del Cante Flamenco" of Fosforito and Paco with 48 tracks, all different to the ones on the the "Cante Y Guitarra" CD but no info about where or when they were recorded, what the original record label was or what the titles were of the original releases. I also have a two CD box called "¡Genio Y Solera!" which has some overlap with the "Selección Antológica...", but some different tracks. Of the two CD's in the box, one is titled "¡Genio Y Solera!", but the other is titled "Cante Por Derecho". Again, there is no info about where or when they were recorded, what the original record label was or what the titles were of the original releases. Does anyone have any info about these CD re-releases and what the original releases were? I have tried searching online, but only find dates of CD compilations from the 2000's, and fuzzy pics of old singles on Fosforito's website (Some of the tracks match, but there's no other info). I did find a discography that listed Belter catalogue numbers for 4 EP's and 5 LP's of Fosforito with Paco, but again, no titles, tracklists or other info.
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Date Apr. 28 2014 11:38:26
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Pimientito
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From: Marbella
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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to mark indigo)
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I have tried searching online, but only find dates of CD compilations from the 2000's, and fuzzy pics of old singles on Fosforito's website (Some of the tracks match, but there's no other info). I did find a discography that listed Belter catalogue numbers for 4 EP's and 5 LP's of Fosforito with Paco, but again, no titles, tracklists or other info. I have hit quite dead end here as well. If anyone has any of the original Fosforito LPS , can they please tell us the track listings. The original BELTER LPs all seem to be called Fosforito and released in different years. I am trying to find the different tracks with little luck. As you say, there is maddingly little information about these recordings. What is more frustrating is that lots of the compilations that have been released feature tracks by Fosforito and Paco de Lucia...but I dont know if they "new tracks" for the compilation or taken from old albums. In the last month I found a few more albums in second hand record shops. Variado Flamenco 1974 ORLADOR 54.221 - features Tangos "Hasta el reloj se me para" by Fosforito and Paco de lucia Cafe del Burrero 1975 OLYMPO L-235 features 2 tracks by PDL and Fosforito (other tracks feature Ramon de algeciras, Juan Maya marote and Juan Habichuela) Que tu me Hayas Olvidado (fandangos) No te des por Ofender (soleares) I also found a compilation produced in former Yugoslavia The Spanish Guitar Paco de Lucia 1976 PHILIPS 6328 219 Features Guajiras, entre dos aguas etc.
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Date Apr. 28 2014 16:57:07
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Bulerias2005
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RE: Pacos Discography (in reply to Paul Magnussen)
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ORIGINAL: Paul Magnussen Very nice. Do you happen to know what relation (if any) Lolita was to Juanito? I presume Paco at this point is still sounding much like a less sloppy Ricardo? I don't mean to derail the thread, but I take issue with characterizations of Nino Ricardo as being a "sloppy" player. Sure, his technique was not as clean as that of contemporaries like Sabicas', but certainly not to the point of being considered "sloppy". In fact, I have heard unreleased recordings of Ricardo and Sabicas playing duets, and you cannot tell the difference between them -- technically, they sound as though they are equals (which I believe they essentially were).
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Date Apr. 28 2014 17:51:28
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