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aeolus

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the real deal 

never mind
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ToddK

 

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

I was so ready for the real deal. Damn you!

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gerundino63

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 9:40:53
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

I was going to upload a video and then discovered it had been posted here before. I found this replacement

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 10:51:28
 
Ricardo

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

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ORIGINAL: aeolus

never mind


Found it!

http://youtu.be/SEwIX9q1taY

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 12:18:18
 
guitarbuddha

 

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Ricardo

Hey Ricardo you sh1t stirrer.

Probably sounded great in the room despite the horribly overdriven recording. But what always bamboozles me is the fact that he breaks each and every line before the downbeat on the Llobet at the start and indeed this affectation colours most of the material.

Also strange is the way that he seldom seems to instigate a change of musical direction with the emergence of a motif but seems to change course midstream. Unsettling for the attentive (precious ?) passenger, like a gear change or breaking on a turn

Anyway despite various opinions that is a more interesting piece of archive than the two docs which I have seen.

So good find, a pretty fascinating and instructive piece of historical footage.

D.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 12:25:02
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to guitarbuddha

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or breaking on a turn


Wrong again. Trail breaking is standard practice in MotoGP racing. But you really really better know what you are doing.

As for as Segovia is concerned, he sure fooled a lot of people.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 14:25:24
 
guitarbuddha

 

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

quote:

ORIGINAL: aeolus

quote:

or breaking on a turn


Wrong again.

Trail breaking is standard practice in MotoGP racing. But you really really better know what you are doing.



As for as Segovia is concerned, he sure fooled a lot of people.



I never tire of being wrong in your opinion.


Also pretty important that it is appropriate to the vehicle you are in.




Not so much as he once did.

D.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 14:51:40
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

Well Ricardo opened the door and the foro seems in hibernation soooo:



Miguel de Maria says he goes totally crazy here and I would agree. I get the impression that here is a gifted player who has toed the line as far a the canon of classical guitar and wants tor break out but can't compose his own works so takes the standard repertory and mangles it.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 21:29:05
 
Shroomy726

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

You know what's the real deal? Bach's Chaconne in D minor. It was unknown to me before that whole ordeal that happened a while back in the foro. Someone posted a video of Segovia's master class on the piece.

I've listened to that piece, both in violin and guitar, a few thousand times since then. The violin is really the instrument that captured my ear the most but I've been listening to the guitar version lately.

Man, what a composition. It really blew me away. And it looks ****ing hard in violin.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 22:57:09
 
Aretium

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Shroomy726

Shroomy, the chaconne is one of the handful of pieces of music that has reduced me to tears, I recently heard a piano rendition of it that was surprisingly good but violin is definitely my favourite.
Johannes Brahms once said in a letter
"On one stave, for a small instrument, the man writes a whole world of the deepest thoughts and most powerful feelings. If I imagined that I could have created, even conceived the piece, I am quite certain that the excess of excitement and earth-shattering experience would have driven me out of my mind"
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 23:12:15
 
Leñador

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

Just listened to it for the first time, AMAZING!!

I feel like I hear Bach spoken about much more from guitarists then other muscians, is there a reason for this?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 23:29:36
 
Aretium

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Leñador

I know right? I play 80% flamenco 20% Bach on my guitar. EDIT "I try to play" :D
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 23:34:46
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: aeolus

never mind


Found it!

http://youtu.be/SEwIX9q1taY


I was expecting "Andres Segovia shreds"

disappointed!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2013 23:47:03
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Shroomy726

Check out Grumiaux playing the Chaconne (violin). Incredibly spine-tingling intonation. Very austere playing.

The awesome thing about classical music is there have been so many geniuses and we still can hear and study their music. Flamenco has Paco, but classical has dozens of people that were his equal.

Bach is popular on guitar because of at least three reasons:
1. it's excellent music
2. Bach wrote for guitar-like instruments (no other great composer did)
3. Bach's music tends to work independently of the instrument for which he wrote it

Okay, now I have to learn Lara's Theme, for a Life Celebration Event I just booked today... :)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 0:17:17
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to mark indigo

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I was expecting "Andres Segovia shreds"

disappointed!




according to Segovia, he was traveling to Japan via railway accross the continent and he used the time to edit this piece. Pops and clicks abound.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 17:18:42
 
Doitsujin

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

woderful

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 17:23:14
 
Arash

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

tough student for the maestro



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 18:14:42
 
Arash

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

and the real deal



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 18:32:13
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Arash

Two can play that game.

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 19:44:03
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

quote:

quote:

I was expecting "Andres Segovia shreds"

disappointed!
quote:

according to Segovia, he was traveling to Japan via railway accross the continent and he used the time to edit this piece. Pops and clicks abound.


oh, never mind

...and Aeolus, prior to your constant spamming of the FLAMENCO forum with endless classical guitar vids, I didn't really have anything against classical guitar, and occasionally listened to some, but since you seem to be constantly ramming classical guitar down everyone's throats on a FLAMENCO forum, and I am here 'cos I like FLAMENCO, I am starting to really dislike classical guitar intensely. Not only are you not selling it, you are having the opposite effect, on me at least.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 19:47:41
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to mark indigo

quote:

...and Aeolus, prior to your constant spamming of the FLAMENCO forum with endless classical guitar vids, I didn't really have anything against classical guitar, and occasionally listened to some, but since you seem to be constantly ramming classical guitar down everyone's throats on a FLAMENCO forum, and I am here 'cos I like FLAMENCO, I am starting to really dislike classical guitar intensely. Not only are you not selling it, you are having the opposite effect, on me at least.


Reading my posts is not mandatory. Just walk on by. Or report me to the moderator.
and did you note that my first post on this thread was of Paco? And it was Recardo that posted Segovia video.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 20:00:42
 
Arash

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

quote:

ORIGINAL: aeolus

Two can play that game.




best one, but old.
here is something new which can be used in delcamp
but there is one second where you can hear some real bulerias compas (0:10 - 0:11) :D


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 20:10:16
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Arash

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here is something new which can be used in delcamp


That would get you banned for life at delcamp.That place has more rules than the Catholic church.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2013 20:16:36
 
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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 22 2013 4:14:09
 
Leñador

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

What is that Kudo?? Are you trying to tell us something??

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 22 2013 4:34:33
 
kudo

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

its a joke just like how the farting paco serrano video shred stuff

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 22 2013 5:33:40
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: the real deal (in reply to aeolus

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Reading my posts is not mandatory. Just walk on by.


I've always wondered about how useful the green "block" button is.... and how many other members you need to block before threads become completely unintelligible and there's no point checking the foro at all....?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 22 2013 13:06:26
 
aeolus

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RE: the real deal (in reply to mark indigo

quote:

I've always wondered about how useful the green "block" button is.... and how many other members you need to block before threads become completely unintelligible and there's no point checking the foro at all....?


Don't know anything about the green block doodad
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 22 2013 13:15:37
 
jshelton5040

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RE: the real deal (in reply to Miguel de Maria

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ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria

Check out Grumiaux playing the Chaconne (violin). Incredibly spine-tingling intonation. Very austere playing.


Miguel,
I must say I am very impressed with your taste in music and musicians. I think I have every recording Grumiaux made. He was simply the best.

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