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Tom Blackshear

 

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FINE TUNING A GUITAR 

Hi Folks,

I just finished a modified version of a flamenco negra for Carlos Rodriguez. He will most likely put it up on You Tube to demonstrate it sometime in the near future.

It was a chore, for sure, since I had to follow his explanation with certain measurements I was not familiar with.

He wanted a strong bass and a higher frequency treble, with a vowel tone in the middle register, so that the guitar would have good projection, and then, to top it off, he wanted volume with a low action.

I sure hope he likes it, as I spent 6 months on this puppy.

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Ricardo

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

Cool. Did you salt the braces?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2013 19:22:52
 
Tom Blackshear

 

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Ricardo

I was so sick I almost threw up on the guitar at one time :-)

But I'm happy with it in-spite of needing new glasses to do a better French polish.

I have no idea if he will like it but I hope so. Oh yeah, I didn't use salt, and I haven't used salt for quite some time, mostly just polishing fan braces with 400 to 600 sand paper.

The articulation and timber of the instrument has become pretty valid with very little adjustment, and the microscopic sanding is to bring up the tonal nuance.

This is still an enigma, as it's a search every time I do it.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2013 19:36:50
 
Tom Blackshear

 

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

Well, he liked it a lot and said maestro you are a genius. I asked him if he was just trying to make me feel good :-)

Now, on to finishing a Miguel Rodriguez style classical for a player in Austria.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 21 2013 14:50:32
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

What, no pictures?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 27 2013 3:38:35
 
Tom Blackshear

 

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to constructordeguitarras

Ethan I haven't learned how to put pictures up on this list yet.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 27 2013 14:13:09
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

Hi there Tom, the luthier that did a little work on my David Macias on this thread
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=179130&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=nodal%2Cbars&tmode=&smode=&s=#179130
also mentioned sanding braces and changing a guitar's tuning from A to G# or G etc.

Do you use this extra nodal bars in your voicing or just sanding the braces?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 0:29:29
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

quote:

I haven't learned how to put pictures up of this list yet.


Maybe I can help, Tom. When you're writing in the little window like I am right now, down below the text box it says Click here to upload! and to the right of that is a box to check to Embed picture in post. Check the box and click on the Click here to upload! Now you get another window, even smaller, with four places to select a file to upload. Click on the Browse button to the right of one of the blank spaces (where the file name will eventually reside). If you have a digital photo somewhere on your computer this will enable you to locate it by browsing your files and click on it. Then you click Open and the file name and location will appear in the space. Then load 3 more photos the same way if you want to and finally click the OK button at the bottom of the little box. You may run into a snag if your photo's file size is too big. You have to reduce it to at most 1024 KB with some kind of photo editing software first.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 2:39:54
 
Tom Blackshear

 

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to HolyEvil

quote:


Do you use this extra nodal bars in your voicing or just sanding the braces?


I actually used one small bar to stiffen a Mexico guitar in its bass but just once, since normally I fine tune the fan braces to get added nuance to the tone. This technique adds several different aspect to a guitar's voice and articulation, etc.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 3:40:27
 
Tom Blackshear

 

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to constructordeguitarras

quote:


Maybe I can help, Tom. When you're writing in the little window like I am right now,



Here is a new head design I'm building........



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 3:45:18
 
Anders Eliasson

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

Its nice. I like it. Especially the two little titties on the top.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 8:48:49
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

I like the headstock too!

@ Anders, I see two kissing angels......guess I have to go out more often....

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 9:30:31
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

I can see the 2 kissing angels now that you mention it.
I think I´m the one who should go out some more. I see titties on a guitar headstock.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 12:00:22
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Anders Eliasson

Maybe it's two angels rubbing their titties together?
It looks nice though
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 16:22:25
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Anders Eliasson

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Its nice. I like it. Especially the two little titties on the top.



Anders, I'm building a replica of the 1977 Miguel Rodriguez classical guitar for a player in Austria, and I should have said I'm building a new guitar with a older head design of a Spanish master.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 16:42:26
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Anders Eliasson

quote:

Especially the two little titties on the top


What! No nipples?

Maybe add a couple???

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 28 2013 20:42:06
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Anders Eliasson

Labia

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

Labia


very fleshy ones :/

could also be two balls and a missing penis
(imagine a penis there in the middle, now that would be a real "macho" guitar headstock design)

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Arash

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arash

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

Labia


very fleshy ones :/

could also be two balls and a missing penis
(imagine a penis there in the middle, now that would be a real "macho" guitar headstock design)



Well, that would be the entire rest of the guitar.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 29 2013 17:40:24
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Ricardo

That would be an extremely long penis, very thin and with a huge head.

Oh, needless to say it would be a guitar with almost no balls
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Anders Eliasson

and the two bulges on the side are belly rolls? Some guys like a place to hold on to...
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

You guys sound like a bunch of ten-year-olds "talking dirty" on the playground.
Grow up.
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

aye aye sir.

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

To me it looks like 2 mirrored "en profile" pictures of a (animated) cartoon/action figure enjoying a well deserved rest. Can't put my finger on it exactly but somehow feels like a mixture between the blond studd from s1ingle and mr. Incredible.
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

It's Reyes' headstock from the 1960's I think. In the mean time the hormones have made the breasts larger. The side rolls are really called "back fats".

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2013 9:49:13
 
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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to Tom Blackshear

quote:

Here is a new head design I'm building........

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In spite of all the foregoing wit:

I like it.

Very classic design. Restrained. . .Not too elaborate. . .

Reminds me of an antique mirror frame we had when I wa a kid. . .

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2013 14:10:44
 
Tom Blackshear

 

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RE: FINE TUNING A GUITAR (in reply to C. Vega

Actually, it is a replica of the Miguel Rodriguez style that I build for those who want a near bench copy for classical guitar music. Only with a few slight modifications to strengthen its power and performance.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2013 14:46:51
 
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Only with a few slight modifications to strengthen its power and performance.


Do 'slight modifications' to the headstock design really affect power and performance?

How?

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