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rombsix

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to Pimientito) 
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All right then Paco, Rafa Cortes and a couple of other freaks of nature out there.
Most of us will never get that kind of sound by picado so using 3 finger technique instead gives a very nice effect that even mortals like me can hope to achieve!


Agreed.

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Elie

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to rombsix) 
isn't Rafa Cortes's picado faster than paco ?
his picados are super crazy

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 12 2011 17:36:51
 
rombsix

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to Elie) 


For alternative picado techniques, check here from 2:40 to 2:48, then 3:00 to 3:23 where I believe he uses p-i-m for that effect...

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to Elie) 
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isn't Rafa Cortes's picado faster than paco ?
his picados are super crazy

no

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 16 2011 17:02:19
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Elie

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to rombsix) 
then paco is faster? or they're same speed ?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 16 2011 17:25:22
 
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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to Guest) 
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ORIGINAL: rumbaking
Even Grisha admitted to me when I asked him if he was as fast as Paco, replied NO.....To me that's really scary.....


question is, would he dare to say at all he is faster, if that was true.

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Ricardo

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to Elie) 
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then paco is faster? or they're same speed ?


Sorry but he is not so clean and controlled as Paco. Speed is about rhythm first. Pushing past your control limits is not so impressive. Paco NEVER does this.

I have seen him play with his Nephew BAnderas.....that guy can go a notch or two faster then Paco I believe. Others are standing right up to him but not necessarily surpassing....Cerreduela Antonio Rey, those are two I have actually seen that can do it literally the same. But imagine having to sit next to Mclaughlin and Dimeola all those concerts and keep it up all the time....I am not sure we have a sub for that PDL guy!

Luckily FLAMENCO is not about how fast your picado is. Luckily....

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 16 2011 18:05:15
 
rombsix

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to Ricardo) 
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Luckily FLAMENCO is not about how fast your picado is. Luckily....


Are you sure?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 16 2011 18:19:52
 
Ricardo

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to rombsix) 
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Are you sure?


That is not a gold card to not practice now!!!! Everyone should be striving for personal excellence and not get let down by the plain fact that they won't be "as fast as" guitarist X. But it is no excuse either for being lazy.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 16 2011 18:24:17
 
Florian

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to Ricardo) 
ofcourse someone will touch pacos speed ...anything that one human has done can be recreated by another imo.....not any and not every but it can be done again

there's plenty of fast and faster people but the staccato, clarity and sound is what sets Paco apart...however is not impossible as long as you have 2 hands and the time, ambition and heart to match it.....speed only matters to a certain extent perhaps to get their attention...eventually u have to say something...but even if its true il never subscribe to the idea that anything one person does is out of the reach of another

not one single guitarist was born an expert...they all got there exactly the same way anyone here can

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RE: Technique question - WE ARE DOIN... (in reply to rombsix) 
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All right then Paco, Rafa Cortes and a couple of other freaks of nature out there.
Most of us will never get that kind of sound by picado so using 3 finger technique instead gives a very nice effect that even mortals like me can hope to achieve!


Rafael also uses 3 finger picado. nothing wrong with that.
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