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yohan

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Star and cresent symbol 

I was wachting this very cool video of duquende,miguel poveda and chicuelo
watch it here:
and I saw that duquende has star and cresent tattooed on his left hand.
Look closely at 2:17.
And then I realize that camaron has that too.I thought it was an islam symbol or something.
Does anyone know what it means? just curious

(btw I love the applause at the end)

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Elie

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to yohan

actually I don't know what does that symbol exactly mean but take a look at the Turkish flag aren't they the same weird


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 17 2010 10:15:06
 
Ron.M

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to Elie

As far as I know, this symbol is really ancient.
Long, long before Islam or anything.

I can see it as being a Gitano thing too, from the long past, with the migrating tribes who lived mainly at the mercy of the elements and had great familiarity with the night sky..

Nobody has the right to claim the Moon and the Stars as their own "copyright" any more than the Japanese can claim the "Rising Sun" as their own IMO.

Only Politicians do that stuff...

Geez...Politicians would sell us air if they could get away with it.


cheers,

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 17 2010 10:39:35
 
XXX

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to yohan

well, the "nazi" symbol was also existent before (it comes from India i think), but when the symbol is used today, it has a certain political meaning. Likewise in this case i think the half moon means Islam and the stern ("David's stern" in german) stands for Jewish religion. At least that would make sense to me, but im just guessing of course.

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GuitarVlog

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to yohan

Pacman eating the star of David?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 17 2010 11:17:18
 
Gummy

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to yohan

Here's some older discussion on it:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=25794&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=camaron%2Ctattoo&tmode=&smode=&s=#26062

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=55759&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=camaron%2Ctattoo&tmode=&smode=&s=#55759

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 17 2010 11:25:01
 
Stu

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to Gummy

how strange!!!...i have just watched the film "Taken" starring liam neeson, who's a hard nut security dude who takes on a gang of albanian pimps/scumbags who've kidnapped his daughter to sell as a sex slave.. and as a minor plot point early on one of them is described as having a tattoo on his right hand which is later seen and its the same as these ones!!

related or not...couldnt help but mention it.
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gj Michelob

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to Ron.M

quote:

As far as I know, this symbol is really ancient.
Long, long before Islam or anything.


The Crescent Moon along with one or more stars (up to seven) was a recurrent symbol on ancient Roman coinage. Romans allocated the obverse of the coin to the emperor’s image and the reverse to “advertisement” (think how quickly coins changed hands and travelled distances).
In the attached picture is a coin of Caracalla, but this symbol was already present in Republican Roman coins a few hundred years BC.

Ron has it correctly, the symbol seems to refer to certain constellations but was generally interpreted as a message of light and direction, as if the emperor would bring them upon his subjects.

Incidentally, one creditable view sees the “moon and the sun” –rather than a star, apparently a subsequent interpretation and usage of the same symbol.


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Exitao

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to gj Michelob

Hmmm... but this is an 8-pointed star.


Is the star in the tattoo supposed to be the star of David, or are there other significances to that style of 6-pointed star?

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Arash

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to yohan

The new Conde - Model "Camaron"





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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 18 2010 1:38:23
 
Exitao

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to Arash

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ORIGINAL: Arash

The new Conde - Model "Camaron"






Is it kosher for us to make jokes like this?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 18 2010 1:50:54
 
Arash

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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to yohan

Well, for me its "halal"

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 18 2010 4:02:35
 
gj Michelob

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Hmmm... but this is an 8-pointed star.


It was just one example. Here is one from the Geta’s administration, with a six pointed star.



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RE: Star and cresent symbol (in reply to Ron.M

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ORIGINAL: Ron.M

Geez...Politicians would sell us air if they could get away with it.




Actually, people already do sell air. The businessman figured out how,and the politician made it possible.
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