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Florian

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Guest

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How did I get pushed out? Please enlighten me.


i think hes talking about the dude talking about mushrooms

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:08:17
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to cathulu

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Free speech is just to damn inconvenient to tolerate I guess.


For me, it was the spamming... across threads and in PMs i.e. no netiquette - that will always do it, anywhere online.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:16:01
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Doitsujin

Cathulu I see that you live in Vancouver, my home town. Ill be there next week. You ever go to Kino Cafe?
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Florian

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Guest

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Now that you mention it, I actually recall a guy coming in here several months ago and talking about drugs and such.


yeah that was him :-)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:22:27
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Estevan

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So El Pollo is your "preceptor"?


Sí.

I really like his Technique. I also teach it at the Conservatory.
He showed me falsetas like he plays them and not how Faucher transcribed them.

I think Ruben would agree with me that hes one of the most innovative and original flamencos out there. He does stuff Paco would never have thought of doing.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:32:42
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to fevictor

Yes, I go there, it can be quite good. Gary Hayes plays there (Gerado Alcala) but he is away in Spain now - he is muy Flamenco. A lot of local instructors and advanced students dance there. Every once in a while a gitano will show-up and play, I saw this gitano sing and accompany himself on guitar, and he was amazing. Wish I got his name, that was a few years ago.

One good thing is we are blessed in Vancouver with a bunch of Cante singers, a bit unusual. There is an old guy who sings and he is very good with working the crowd.

I am in Maui on holiday, so I won't be in town. Enjoy the show. I believe the show starts at 9:00PM and they will do three sets. The first and second set is very busy, unless you go early you will have trouble finding a seat.

Let's hear what you think of the show...
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:32:48
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Escribano

Yes, he was a pain. I was just commenting on the irony of it all... it is true in all walks of life. You fit in or you are out on the street. Still, something about that is disquieting. Perhaps some of the people banned have a mental illness, indeed I am almost certain one of them did.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:39:36
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Guest

Actually Gary is back now and I'm going to take some classes with him. He was my first teacher about 4 years ago, I met him at Kino when he was playing with Angel, a cantaor from Malaga. I know the old guy that your talking about, hes good with Rumbas and gets up and dances a bit and gets everybody clapping. Anyway, maybe we can meet up next year!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:43:39
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Florian

Yeah, it was mushroom dude...
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:48:33
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to fevictor

Oh, I thought he was gone for a couple of months... I guess that already came and went. Time flies.

Gary was my instructor also, I will likely go back to him in the fall. Say hi for me... I hope he has not already forgot me?

My other instructor, Victor Kolstee, he totally forgot me. But that was more than a few years ago.

Another guy I have had lessons with is Fernando Aguirre.

One guy I would like to have lessons with one day is Juan de Marias but I don't think he gives lessons...


Yes, next year sounds like a chance. Till then...
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 30 2009 14:54:24
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Matic

Prof. Matic
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He does stuff Paco would never have thought of doing.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 1 2009 6:24:49
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to cathulu

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I am in Maui on holiday, so I won't be in town


Sweet, I had a great time at Kanapali Shores (spelling?). Very jealous.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 1 2009 10:32:58
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to cathulu

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Kaanapali Shores.... Championship golf, world class shopping and dining and a thousand and one other activities are just minutes away.


Just the verry dab min!

Me masell?

Well, ah'll probably just walk doon tae the beach here and if I get bored or a bit caul ah kin aye ging up tae the Post Office an buy a stamp or a postcaird or ging up tae the Wee Shoppie fur a packet o' crisps an a can o Irn Bru an come back an sit an watch the wee boaties on the North Sea bobbin aboot an the seagulls fleein aroon.....then away back haim fur ma tea.

Ahhh....Luxury min!

cheers,

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 1 2009 12:01:11
 
Escribano

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Ron.M

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Just the verry dab min!


Yeah well, it was a while ago when I was awash with money at Apple Computer in Cupertino so I jumped on a 5 hour flight from SFO for a long weekend - rented a Saleen Mustang convertible and checked into a condo on the beach..... as you do

I got a cool tee-shirt that said (in Hawaiin) "Swim softly and carry a big stick" and a run in with a local who was chased me down the mountain in a Pepsi truck like out of "Duel".

Your wee "Scotch" boaties and haim fur tea are very exotic to Hawaiins, you know.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 1 2009 12:53:35
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to cathulu

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ORIGINAL: cathulu

Yes, he was a pain. I was just commenting on the irony of it all... it is true in all walks of life. You fit in or you are out on the street. Still, something about that is disquieting. Perhaps some of the people banned have a mental illness, indeed I am almost certain one of them did.


This reminds me of a line from a Clive James book (adapted for our purpose):

Not everybody who plays flamenco is crazy but everybody who is crazy wants to play.
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Escribano

The view outside my condo. I am in Kihei. It is beautiful! The best thing is the air and water is warm... Windsurf, stand-up paddleboard, and ride my bike... beauty eh!



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Ron.M

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Escribano

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Your wee "Scotch" boaties and haim fur tea are very exotic to Hawaiins, you know.


Ah but Simon, soon only 20 miles away from me Donald Trump will be building the "World's greatest golf course", along with fine restaurants and world class shopping.

http://www.trumpgolfscotland.com/

Somehow I think I will still be spending time on the local beach though, watching the boaties and gulls, since I am somewhat short of a world class income.

cheers,

Ron
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Arash

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Guest

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ORIGINAL: rubendiaz

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this time, i agree with prof. diaz.
very good post



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 2 2009 1:38:19
 
Estevan

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Arash

HAPPY BIRTHDAY RUBEN!



(everyone else - scroll down to the bottom of that page)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 2 2009 8:02:53
 
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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Guest

Username:rubendiaz
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Occupation:
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this is interesting. methinks he doesn't actually know paco

http://www.guitarfoundation.org/drupal/node?page=1 read carefully the name of the poster. you'll find it is ruben diaz

Which is a shame because he is completely going to ruin gfa's name by posting his bull in it.

http://www.guitarfoundation.org/drupal/user/2013

it says bachian harmony. which is a laugh. that would mean that he'd have virtually no idea about mode mixture secondary chords or anything past 1750 lol. and i think bachian is not really what we call it... common practice harmony.

my favorite thing is that it says his father was a student of segovia's...but then why did ruben end up taking lessons from a guy in argentina? and just how long was ruben's father a student ?

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Guest

I think I have counted at least six sites he is on. I think this is the only one that he is not?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 2 2009 11:14:04
 
Estevan

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to HemeolaMan

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my favorite thing is that it says his father was a student of segovia's...


Ah yes:
<<Ruben Diaz is possessed of flamenco roots that are embedded in his family. Indeed, his father, Luis Chavarría, was a student and a disciple of Andrés Segovia.>>

- it's a marvellous non sequitur!

quote:

but then why did ruben end up taking lessons from a guy in argentina


Manuel López Ramos, originally from Argentina, lived and taught for many years in Mexico City, where Ruben is from.

quote:

and just how long was ruben's father a student ?


Probably an hour or two, just like most people who attended a master class but don't claim to be "a student and a disciple".

What's with this "disciple" thing anyway? Ruben himself said in one of his earlier posts "flamenco is not a religion", yet he talks as if - for him, at least - it is.

This is funny:

<< Most active forum: Self-Promotion >>


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 2 2009 12:08:21
 
Estevan

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to HemeolaMan

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Occupation:
Professor at the Royal Conservatory of Toronto.


There it is again. As I said before, teachers at the Royal Conservatory of Toronto are not "professors", unless they coincidentally teach at a University where they hold that title.
It's not a title you can honestly give to yourself, any more than "Ph.D"

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 2 2009 12:13:24
 
Florian

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RE: Paco de Lucia and the Contempora... (in reply to Estevan

u know theres one think to talk about someone and disagree with him when hes here..its another to do so knowing he has no way of defending himself and replying

by now we all know the guy cant change , hes either not aware or cant help it ( and i feel the same as most of you)...but atleast let him be or if we gonna keep talking about him let him defend himself


it feels wrong to keep talking about someone when u know he cant even replie or defend himself

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