RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 2010****

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at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 18:55:28)
quote: Don't forget the El Tempul challenge started by Ron in 08. oh woops, sorry ron. that was before my days here. [;)]

rogeliocan -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 19:15:04)
quote: Post them in the "Challenges" forum, so they are easy for folk to find. I sent a message to Simon asking him on the best way of doing this, I though a new section called Challenge Archive under Challenges where I could put 3 threads but I haven't heard back. Because it would be an archive of all 3 categories I did not want to put them under on of the already existing sections, it just did not fit there. Suggestion?

Ron.M -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 19:22:36)
quote: Suggestion? Ummm...let's see.. OK..how about in the "Resources" section? ('cos it is an actual "resource" if you think about it..[:-][:D] We can always move it later if needed) cheers, Ron

rogeliocan -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 19:27:49)
quote: OK..how about in the "Resources" section? Super, I will put it up tomorrow. How many intermediate and advanced challenges have there been? I found only one intermediate.

Ron.M -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 19:30:01)
quote: oh woops, sorry ron. that was before my days here. Hi Leo, It all fell apart anyway in the end, as the Foro got transferred to Captain Bob and folk got banned and stuff (including me). Florian got it started up again at the beginning of the next year and that was the first Challenge to be completed. cheers, Ron

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 19:49:28)
quote: How many intermediate and advanced challenges have there been? I found only one intermediate. there's been two intermediates. one was a solea por bulerias, the other one was a moraito bulerias. there's been a few beginners. the ones i can think of are.... bulerias compas solea falseta from graf martinez tangos falseta from rombsix's teacher moraito tangos ron's bulerias falseta quote: It all fell apart anyway in the end, as the Foro got transferred to Captain Bob and folk got banned and stuff (including me). oh yeah, i signed up right around that time. boy, was i confused... [8\|]

rogeliocan -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 20:01:08)
quote: there's been two intermediates. one was a solea por bulerias, the other one was a moraito bulerias. there's been a few beginners. the ones i can think of are.... bulerias compas solea falseta from graf martinez tangos falseta from rombsix's teacher moraito tangos ron's bulerias falseta Thanks, how about advanced. I only found one intermediate and I have all the beginners except Graf Martinez I think.

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 20:07:02)
there's been only one advanced, if i remember correctly. it's a sticky in the uploads section.

Andy Culpepper -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 20:08:23)
Don't forget about the cante accomp. challenge. Solea por Bulerias with Felix de Lola on cante.

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 20:11:32)
solea challenge http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=106369&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=moraito%2Cbulerias&tmode=&smode=&s=#106512 here's jason's challenge. but i dont know where the results are http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=102755&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=challenge&tmode=&smode=&s=#102755 moraito bulerias thread. again, couldn't find the results http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=99720&mpage=1&p=&tmode=1&smode=1&key=moraito%2Cbulerias cante challenge (thanks andy!) http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=117310&mpage=1&p=&tmode=1&smode=1&key=challenge weight loss challenge http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=121820&mpage=1&p=&tmode=1&smode=1&key=challenge super gitano jondo duende fuego challenge http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=150546&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=challenge&tmode=&smode=&s=#150549

Schalli -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 14 2010 21:58:37)
Hey, I play that solea, too ;-) Thanks for all the links!

villain -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 15 2010 0:55:31)
Jason's intermediate challenge sounded awesome. tough (for me anyway) but fun. Is that what y'all are putting down next - intermediate? Let's do it! :-)

kozz -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 15 2010 8:19:13)
quote: weight loss challenge http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=121820&mpage=1&p=&tmode=1&smode=1&key=challenge LOL [:D]

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 15 2010 20:41:31)
quote: Is that what y'all are putting down next - intermediate? Let's do it! :-) there's going to be an intermediate challenge with one of jose tanaka's video lessons. winner gets one month access to his site. same deal as the next beginners challenge. are you going to do both? [:)]

villain -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 15 2010 21:05:26)
quote: are you going to do both? Provided you let me - yeah, probably so :-) when are the intermediate challenge details getting posted?

Schalli -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 15 2010 21:19:55)
Do You already know which palo will be part of the beginners challenge?

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 15 2010 21:37:54)
quote: Provided you let me - yeah, probably so :-) when are the intermediate challenge details getting posted? as long as you're a member here and you're not trying to pick some low hanging apples, you are good to go! here's the intermediate thread so far http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=151147&p=1&mpage=3&tmode=1&smode=1 quote: Do You already know which palo will be part of the beginners challenge? jose said he might write something special for you guys. [:)] he said he's thinking about libre, which will be very interesting.

villain -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 15 2010 22:04:29)
quote: as long as you're a member here and you're not trying to pick some low hanging apples, you are good to go! lol..no worries there I don't think - check my entry to the buleria falsetta in missionary position, it largely sucked monkey nuts...and my late entry to the Tangos beginner challenge (nobody scored me, but perhaps they are just sparing me :-)), I doubt I would have placed top 5 or so even there. I'm just game for the challenge and figure if the intermediate has enough time to learn it and its anywhere within the realm of something I think I could get close to learning, I am willing to submit and at least be on the low end of the curve...if it's painful to listen to, I will certainly spare the judges ears, but if I can put together something that isn't awful, I would love to try. (i'll check that thread. i had been looking under the 'challenges' header...is that where it ends up once everything is official?)

Schalli -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 16 2010 12:39:39)
libre? Never heard before and i can't find something informative on the net about it, so what is this?

Elie -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 16 2010 15:03:00)
quote: libre? Never heard before and i can't find something informative on the net about it, so what is this? toque libre .. (as far as I know) means the palos that aren't tided by the tempo or rhythmic structure you just feel the music and phrase it the way you like. you express it the way you feel it=>(like Rondena) and that's makes it personal i.e every musician plays it the way he/she feels

Schalli -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 16 2010 15:43:59)
A kind of "freestyle?" So is this a guitar-only palo or are there dancers, too? Anyway, sounds very interessting...[:)]

xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 16 2010 16:43:14)
i think of free palos as guitar oriented ones, but actually many dancers like to use them...rondena, granaína, taranta, minera...but not only these can be interpreted freely or with a very loose compás, you hear seguiriyas, soleares, tientos, fandangos, malaguenas played freely too... if you play these it helps enormously with the feeling i believe, because without the proper expression these simply sound like s-hit...so they're an important part of your development imo...

Schalli -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 16 2010 17:05:37)
What criterias will be used in the beginners challenge to decide what is well played, if i have the freedom to play like fell like (leave out notes or add some, change tempo etc.) ? doesn't it all belong to the personal taste of the judge then?

Schalli -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 24 2010 19:30:53)
Anything new about this one?

xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Nov. 24 2010 22:51:01)
you should read the judges' comments in the previous challenges as tastes do vary...i can only speak for myself, to me the most important things are tone and compás...i can overlook the leaving out of notes, changing sections but only if i can see a valid reason for them...things can be more difficult to some beginners and easier for others...also, your playing may be technically inferior to others' but if you still create a good aire you will score higher... nothing's set into stone, and you mustn't think about the criterias, you shouldn't want to learn it for us, but you must do the best that you can...

Schalli -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Mar. 31 2011 12:47:24)
It's a while ago someone wrote something about the next Beginners Challenge. Is there any chance it will start soon? And what about the palo? I'd like to learn something about Malaguenas, so if there are more people interested, maybe we could play something in that palo?

Ron.M -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Mar. 31 2011 19:23:09)
That sounds good, Schalli... We've never had a free-form palo as a challenge. OK who wants to be the Challenge Administrator on this one? Let's get going... cheers, Ron

villain -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Mar. 31 2011 19:28:15)
Let's do it. I'm game to play with everyone.

Adam -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Apr. 2 2011 1:57:31)
Free-form sounds good, something different from a lot of the other challenges. Perhaps granaína?

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