****Beginners Challenge Fall 2010****

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at_leo_87 -> **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 1:45:58)
Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 Start: September 12, 2010 End: November 1, 2010 Plan: Contestants will have until November 1 to learn and record any version of the falseta from below plus the alzapua ending from the Ravenna Version. Compas tracks will be provided. Contestants will then send an mp3 of their recording to Graham_B (grahamb.foro@gmail.com), who will upload the entries to the foro. Please include your foro user name when you send him your mp3. The entries will be evaluated by a panel of volunteer judges (ahem! that's you! ahem..). Scoring will be based on technique, compas, and aire. Falseta: Moraito's Rompeserones Video + Tabs Thanks to Andy for the video and tabs! Tabs: Album Version Encuentro Version Updated Ravenna Version Guitar Pro 5 File Thanks to Richard (xirdneH_imiJ) for uploading the encuentro and album version tabs! Check page 2 to see what parts are required. -You can play some compas or tapado as an intro or just use the intro in section A. -Play Section A from any of the given tabs. -Section B is just basic compas. Play your own or use one from the given tabs. The length is up to you. In the Ravenna tabs, Section B goes until Section C. In the album and encuentro tabs, it goes until the next falseta. -End with Section C which is only in the Ravenna Version. Compas Tracks: Compas Tracks Rules: -all contestants must be a member for at least one month. -previous winners can not enter but are welcomed to upload an unofficial entry at the end of the challenge. -compas track or metronome must be used. -recording must be done in one take, by one person, with one guitar. -eq and reverb is allowed -any other editing, copying and pasting, punch ins, etc. are NOT allowed. Prize: glory and fame. non-winners will still win experience and feedback. other prizes to be determined. Contestants: cathulu ailsa minordjango louis_b veet conradp nenadk leendert lowden yohan marduk bhandras veet pawo rogeliocan rtc odinz rico_kiko Judges: ron florian xirdneh_imij toddk gj michelob kozz matic deteresa1 pimiento darkeliedraven xirdneh_imij Graham's Email: grahamb.foro@gmail.com *PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR FORO USER NAME WHEN SENDING IN YOUR MP3!!!*

at_leo_87 -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 1:52:20)
feel free to contribute your own tangos compas loops. as the competition has not officially started yet, nothing is written in stone. if you don't like something or would like to add something, please speak up. ok, at the moment, we need: -judges -a volunteer to collect the mp3 recording and upload them -prizes, if we're still doing prizes -there are some mistakes in the tabs that will have to be edited.

cathulu -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 1:54:04)
Thanks Anthony, this is great!

at_leo_87 -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 1:55:36)
how do the dates sound to you? simon, can we move this to the new challenge section when it's ready? [:)] hey gummy, i see you reading. lol [;)] you in?

kozz -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 8:03:59)
Good work! So Moraito it is? Playing along with the video is very hard.... I did some shuffeling and repositioning from both the Moraito original and the Revanna version so they are now in compas. Maybe some phrasings are not correct but you'll get the idea and it is in compas. Here's a picture where the red arrows point to the green squares wich have been moved in order to keep it in compas. I will upload the audofile here: http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=110362&appid=&p=1&mpage=1&key=&tmode=1&smode=1&s=#144733 Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

kozz -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 8:26:30)
quote: if you don't like something or would like to add something, please speak up. Is there also an original Moraito TAB?

xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 8:51:11)
i have both the encuentro version and the album version of the tab, let me know if they're needed!

kozz -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 8:58:49)
quote: i have both the encuentro version and the album version of the tab, let me know if they're needed! Hee Jimi, I would be interested in both, but espacially the CD version because I dont have the Encuentro DVD. Can you sent it to me at : remco.kas@gmail.com? Thanks!

xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 10:10:22)
sent!

Stu -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 10:31:12)
I would be happy to help edit any tabs. I would also be happy to offer a guitar pro transcription if thats needed or allowed? let me know!

kozz -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 10:52:08)
quote: sent! Muchas gracias! I like this tab more than the slightly edited one by Revanna.

ConradP -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 13:35:21)
quote: quote: sent! Muchas gracias! I like this tab more than the slightly edited one by Revanna. _____________________________ "Has dado en el clavo!" Hmm OK can I also request this tab?

ConradP -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 14:01:29)
And heck that sounds so cool. I can't wait to get going :)

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 14:17:18)
whoa, ok, first of all we need to decide which version we're going to do. then, we need to make the tabs for the version available to all contestants. i say we stick to ravena's version since we have video and tabs easily available for all.

kozz -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 14:19:00)
I find it very difficult to watch the video and the notation together and see whats happening if it is correct. With VLC player I slowed down the video and noticed a few things. Here are some things which I think are not ok, can someone check? - The double stroke at the beginning he does not play - The 1-2-1 ligado he plays 0-2-0 - the 4-1-0 he plays also ligado instead of the 0 with the thumb. Or should we take the original moraitio version, with the original transcript? And otherwhise I would like to take Stu's offer to re-transcribe it. (I am too lazy because I have to reinstall Sibelieus again [;)]) Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 14:21:38)
yes, you picked out a few of the mistakes i talked about. still i think ravenna's version is simpler and more straightforward. the competition will start on sunday so i will upload corrects tabs by then. if someone can beat me to it, please do so.

Gummy -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 14:44:36)
I'm not sure.. I am always lurking[:D] I just got a new job so I'm doing lots of studying and am not sure if I can enter. I will definately work on the piece though so I'm a maybe.

at_leo_87 -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 11 2010 15:13:37)
ok gummy. you'll get a nice question mark next to your name. [:D]

yohan -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 15:20:08)
count me in! its only this falseta right? and how about the intermediate challenge?

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 15:23:43)
yup, only this falseta, the way it's played in the video in the link. you can vary the compas sections. intermediate challenge is in the process of being worked out and will start in two weeks. we probably wont get any real concrete information until the second week.

marduk -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 16:58:50)
count me in, this will be my first entry in one of these, its should be very fun and educational

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 17:33:13)
ok, you're in!

kozz -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 19:06:21)
quote: yes, you picked out a few of the mistakes i talked about. still i think ravenna's version is simpler and more straightforward. the competition will start on sunday so i will upload corrects tabs by then. if someone can beat me to it, please do so. Ok, no probs! (Althought the original is more straightforward imo [;)])

xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 19:25:50)
maybe it would be better if we picked the original or the encuentro version and it's up to the challengers to simplify parts they find too difficult to play - i'll be curious how each get through the fast ligado part finishing the intro...

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 22:21:07)
ok, can you guys make the tabs available for all the contestants? i still think we should keep the closing alzapua section from ravenna's version. i'll try to clean up ravenna's tabs tonight. challenge starts tomorrow.

bhandras -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 22:46:11)
Hey at_leo_87, plz count me in :)

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 11 2010 23:55:55)
you got it! wow, check out the number of contestants!

minordjango -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 12 2010 0:57:43)
quote: minordjango i noticed my name there eccccccccch !!! ill have to leave in until i have a half decent guitar, osim happy to except a devoee or bellido from any foro members[:)] wish or contestants the best of luck[8\|]

at_leo_87 -> RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010** (Sep. 12 2010 3:13:46)
lol. somebody signed you up. apparently without your permission. [:D] i'll just leave you in there and if you can do it, you can do it. if not, that's ok too. [;)]

marduk -> RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (Sep. 12 2010 16:46:25)
quote: i have both the encuentro version and the album version of the tab, let me know if they're needed! i am interested in them also hey is it just me, or is the guy in this video's hand really attracted to the sound hole [:D] just making sure he isnt doing this for some reason im un aware of

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