RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ?

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Arash -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 3:21:00)
just look at the style he is writing and the request for a "3 day challenge" ! this is the exact copy of Ruben ! --- this guy is unbelievable. now offending another fellow iranian (the other amir) without any reason. you can talk to me like that but why him ? "amir de iran", if you (You! not your teacher.....ehmm, wait, are you both the same person ? ;-) can play this in 3 days i will give you one lesson "how to make iranian kabab" for free [&:][&:][&:][:'(][:'(][:'(]

bursche -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 3:32:29)
Sad thing is that those still unknown builders behind "Andalusian Guitars" are maybe even better off with rather cheap marketing than those honest builders who ask the price their guitars are worth or even less than that. All of that really seems to depend on random endorsement. There are those who ask 4000$ for a really decent master grade guitar and those who ask 12000$, 21000$ for theirs. Of course this topic is discussed frequently here and I do not claim to contribute any final adjudgement about it, but for what the hell am I paying if it is not even for the prestigious luthier's name on the paper inside. "Sobrinos de Esteso" is prestigious. But without this discussion here I would never have heard of "Andalusian Guitars". I would probably not have noticed that such a name refers to an actual brand, because there is no luthier's name. My next guitar will be one of those honest builders I can idealize for their hard work!

Escribano -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 3:55:17)
quote: just look at the style he is writing and the request for a "3 day challenge" ! this is the exact copy of Ruben ! Umm, got me curious too, so I have to ask amirdeiran why your first post on this forum: http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=111624&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=&smode=&s=#111624 is the same content as posted by a Ruben Diaz on these other forums in May/June last year: http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000031 http://www.guitarsalon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10988 No posts from you since that day until now, when you leap to the "defence" of Ruben. Right now, I believe that these posts are from the same person, who is in need of some classes on Internet marketing strategies and the power of the community.

HolyEvil -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 3:57:10)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mike_Kinny quote: I am not that person in youtube thanks to heaven… Are you saying that you can play better than him? he better (and maybe upload a video to prove it?).. cuz i was gonna reply and complement him on his playing.. but he ain't this youtube guy..

Arash -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:01:30)
quote: ORIGINAL: amirdeiran (foroflamenco) For the lovers of Camaron and Paco,I hope you enjoy it, and feel the joyfulness of Cadiz….. quote: ORIGINAL: rubendiaz (guitarsalon) For the lovers of Camaron and Paco,I hope you enjoy it, and feel the joyfulness of Cadiz….. oops !!! [:D]

Arash -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:12:14)
bursche, if you would want to sell your Sanchis Lopez Pau Ferro, let me know btw. thanks

Florian -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:12:59)
quote: Can you please explain this? ops [:D] busted i cant think of anything more pathetic then logging in to a forum under a different name to give yourself compliments... pretty..... pretty...pretty sad[8\|] "Amir" quick say something in persian [:D][:D][:D]

Mike_Kinny -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:17:45)
quote: is the same content as posted by a Ruben Diaz on these other forums in May/June last year: They are not the same. At least the signatures are different. [:D] Seriously, I also found this sentence from amirdeiran's previous post: "People that really do things and people that talks about those who really do things… " repeated here by Ruben: http://www.guitarworld.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=73820&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p894281

Arash -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:18:44)
quote: ORIGINAL: Florian quote: Can you please explain this? ops [:D][:D] busted again i cant think of anything more pathetic then logging in to a forum under a different name to give yourself compliments... pretty..... pretty sad[8\|] maybe even amirdeiran knows about this and accepted to give "full control" of his account to Ruben for some free lessons. who knows. all things are possible with this guy. i am baffled . this is all too much [:D]

Arash -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:22:24)
quote: ORIGINAL: Florian "Amir" quick say something in persian [:D][:D][:D] that doesn't help. he could do the same thing you did with me on your facebook. he could ask the "amir" to translate [:D]

Florian -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:23:47)
quote: all things are possible with this guy i am starting to see that.. the chances of 2 different guys saying the same thing word for word.. one from iran and one from .........i have no idea where he is[:D]...wherever are pretty pretty slim theres defenetly something...observant call And dont tell me because he looks up to him cause i look up to plenty of people but i dont quote anyone word for word

Arash -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:25:43)
Time for a new thread: Who is behind "Amir de Iran"? don't worry Simon[:D] j/k

bursche -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 4:26:53)
quote: bursche, if you would want to sell your Sanchis Lopez Pau Ferro, let me know btw. thanks So far I'm not planning to do so, because I can't afford one of Anders's Blancas right now, but Maybe within this year I can (At least I can dream of it). Will be difficult to give away my Sanchis, though. I really love it's sound.

Escribano -> RE: who is behind "Andalusian Guitars" ? (Feb. 7 2010 5:25:22)
This thread is now drifting aimlessly. The manufacturers, promoters and supporters of these guitars are not willing to respond to the core question posed by this thread and reveal "who is behind the Andalusian Guitars". It is time to lock the thread, but it will be preserved under a new Forum topic "Product Reviews" [to introduce and promote or review and comment on products]. It will serve as good reference material regarding these instruments, in the internet library. Of course, as this question remains unanswered, it may lead to adverse inferences about the guitars, leaving behind legitimate doubts and speculations. Therefore, we invite those who are promoting these guitars to dispel the negative perception they have conjured on the foro, by providing answers and more information about their products.

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