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does age reflects on studying flamenco? i am 28 y but actually sometimes i feel that i cant practice then i was thinking serious its over and its too late to make a good level in my hobby ....is it too late really or what i would love really to hear your openion s .
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Date Jan. 25 2007 0:13:31
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ACTUALLY GOT NOTHING TO SAY MORE THAN I LOVE YA GUYS .... I THOUGHT IT WAS TOO LATE AND I VE BEEN CHEATING MY SELF BY PRACTICING AND PLAYIN FLAMENCO IN THIS AGE ,BUT I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM THE THEOREY I AM NOT GOOD IN IT I KNOW SOME SCALES AND CHORDS AND STUFF LIKE THIS BUT STILL ALOT I VE TO KNOW , BY THE WAY THE COUNTRY I LIVE IN ,THERE IS NO FLAMENCO TEACHERS OR EVEN A GOOD GUITAR TEACHER. I AM TEACHING MY SELF THROUGHT DVDS AND TABS ....BUT LATELY I BEGIN TO FEEL FRAUSTRATED AND DEPRESSED AND AS JASON M SAID I WAS GONA SELL MY GUITAR AND FORGOT ABOUT IT ALL .
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Date Jan. 25 2007 3:33:29
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Arash
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Ok, lets be honest! as a child you learn much more faster than when you are 30 years old or older. This is a biological fact. BUT IMO, this only applies to the technique skill, theory,etc. Specially in Flamenco, which is such an emotional music style, IMO you can not play with heart and soul when you started with 5 years and are 18 years old now! Even when you have practiced 13 years, 8 hours a days and even if you can play all Paco and Tomatito falsetas as fast as they can. SOMETHING will be missing which you can't learn in that age period. And this something is ......all the experiences (bad and good) which you gain during your life and which makes you ready to express them in Flamenco music. So when you start to play flamenco guitar at the age of 28 , 30 , or higher.....maybe you will need some more time to learn and practice the technique, etc. but on the other hand BECAUSE of your age and your emotional maturity, you can exploit the full potential out of what you learned in this age when playing the guitar! This is my opinion. Arash
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Date Jan. 25 2007 9:42:23
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I'm 47 and just had my first kid three years ago, and started playing Flamenco shortly after he was born. Even at this crusty old age I was able to learn pretty much all the stuff on the Aaron Gilmartin DVD, and pretty much the Montoya Buleria's DVD as well. Albeit not all at full speed. I did already play Jazz guitar, so it was mostly a matter of learning the left hand stuff, and forcing the right hand to do wierd stuff it didn't want to do ... :) For me though, I don't really try to learn how to play other people's stuff, I learn Falseta's, Compas, etc. as a mechanism for adding to my musical toolbox. All the music I sit around playing are my own creations based on the foundation of stuff I absorbed from that. The great thing is, I play to make myself happy and don't care if I gain any recognition from it. When I was 27 I might have felt differently. The weird thing is that because I don't care about it now, I've actually improved a huge amount. To the point where my wife doesn't ask me to quit playing when she's watching tv any more ... :) Which believe me is saying a lot. So I guess the point could be made that aging can actually be beneficial to playing.
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Date Jan. 25 2007 15:23:40
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its okay guys i just wanted to know how is old is every body here ....lol thankx all for the good feelings and sapport.
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Date Jan. 25 2007 17:48:39
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mrMagenta
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knowing what you want to do in life when you're 7 years old and keeping to it was one thing in the old feudal days, when there weren't a billion appealing options luring you wherever you turn. i'm soon 26. I have tried many different things always thinking: 'this might be it!' (graphics for videogames, literature science, learning computer game programming.. painting, politics, cosmology, playing go (the japanese boardgame), photography, manual labour and beer combo). I've only just recently found something i know i'll stick to.. that is, playing the guitar. I sometimes get frustrated over it too, thinking i could have gotten to it earlier.. what's provoking me is the general attitude; 'you can't hope to go beyond hobby-level if you haven't been at it from the cradle'.. but i use that to fuel my stubborness.
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Date Jan. 25 2007 20:19:08
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All this talk about age amuses me since this March I will turn 70. I have been playing guitar for over 50 years. I have played Pops,rock,jazz,blues,all forms of Latin especially Mexican styles,Puerto Rican, Cuban and Altiplano (South American Indian), classical, country and now...as I approach 70 my fingers itch to play Flamenco style and you know what? They can! Of course not with the speed and depth of a Paco De Lucia or Carlos Montoya, for that matter, but I am in heaven with my Gypsy King Cordoba thinline Falamenco guitar...I practice approx 2 hours a day and have found new ways to play old familiar tunes e.g. Malaguena, Carnaval etc... with more intensity and emotion, so...Its never too late!
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Date Jan. 26 2007 16:23:02
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All this talk about age amuses me since this March I will turn 70. I have been playing guitar for over 50 years. I have played Pops,rock,jazz,blues,all forms of Latin especially Mexican styles,Puerto Rican, Cuban and Altiplano (South American Indian), classical, country and now...as I approach 70 my fingers itch to play Flamenco style and you know what? They can! Of course not with the speed and depth of a Paco De Lucia or Carlos Montoya, for that matter, but I am in heaven with my Gypsy King Cordoba thinline Falamenco guitar...I practice approx 2 hours a day and have found new ways to play old familiar tunes e.g. Malaguena, Carnaval etc... with more intensity and emotion, so...Its never too late! Absolutely!! This is what it's all about IMO. Once you start setting what standards you expect yourself to achieve in what time frame...then you've destroyed the whole thing that made you get involved in the guitar in the first place,...made it into yet another chore you've got to deal with after coming home from work! cheers Ron
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Date Jan. 26 2007 20:47:43
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Hey I'll join, if you'll let me as a mere 58 year old whippersnapper. Age dont mean a thing, unless you like posing of course. Musicmaker, I'm much the same as you, I've had interests in rock, blues, jazz, classical, pop throughout my guitar playing life, and I also find that since I started this flamenco style, its changed my way of playing all the other stuff. Far more expression than I used before. I only wish I'd found it years ago
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Date Jan. 28 2007 7:41:25
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ORIGINAL: Hugh Ron, as to the "building up muscle or wearing out joints". Segovia played well into his nineties, and his hands did'nt disintegrate or pack up in any way. Its probably much better for your hands to be exercised daily in this fashion, and keeping them in good working order. My hands are fine, its just the rest of me that needs a re-build hey i think i dont have to begin now after 20 years may be ....lol
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