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rombsix

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It took five years to happen 

Hola mis amigos,

It was around midnight the other day, and I was practicing the famous i-a-i (with golpe) Chicuelo technique. I kept on going, over and over and over. It started to get a little more solid, and faster. I had just realized a week from then that I had just hit the five-year mark on being a guitarist (first year classical, last four flamenco). It occurred to me: what is up with all those nail-care threads that everyone keeps reading and commenting on? Why was nail care so important? I had been playing for five years, and NEVER had any of my nails hardly gotten chipped or cracked. I once asked members of the foro if I had bionic nails, and the answer was YES. It was just not normal for someone to go on playing for that long a time and not have a SINGLE nail problem. Well, I guess I was the victim of my own self-envy, as I was going on with that i-a-i-golpe on and on and on and it finally happened. I felt something snagging on the strings. It was weird. I started looking at the strings but found nothing jutting out or wrong with them. It then occurred to me. What if it was the dreaded nail problem everyone talks about? I had a look at my A finger, and there it was. A crack that had gone into the nail about 2 mm deep. I had been saying to myself when I was playing that my A nail was too long, and that it was snagging onto the strings. But it was midnight, and I just wasn't in the mood to go and file it down. Well, I guess I paid the price. I had to file it down all the way. It was way shorter than all the other nails, and thus made it annoying when I played (especially when using that technique in tarantas where you play and arpeggio and then drag the A finger from high E to low E across all six strings - what is that called by the way?) The moral of the story is: never be careless enough not to file down a "too-long" nail. And one more thing: I am now a believer that I no longer have this gift of bionic nails. I just hope this incident is not one of many I will come across from now on.

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Ron.M

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

Hi Romb....It's a bitch when that happens, isn't it?
In fact you can add that to the "Guitar Related Mood Disorder" triggers.
Do you have a cat?

One thing you could try rather than trying to fix it, is to file all your nails back as short as the broken one and use the next couple of weeks practising like that.
It can be quite interesting playing around with extremely short nails and looking at how you have to adjust your technique.

cheers

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fevictor

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

For some of us its a combination of weak nails and what we do when not playing guitar. Working with tools and trying not to chip a nail is next to impossible. Sometimes the slightest nick in the nail will catch on something and break or tear the nail.

But anyway...hows it feel to be human?
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TANúñez

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

I have to say my nails have been bionic so far. I have never had to use anything on my nails. I have only broken a thumbnail twice in five years and a pinky nail once.

I have to attribute this to protein. I'm not an expert but since I workout regularly, I consume a large amount of protein daily. Maybe this is the reason. There was a time when I had to stay out of the gym while recovering from an injury. I didn't consume much protein during this time and this is one of the times I broke a nail.

Maybe it's just coincidence. Regardless though, I'm grateful. Nail care is just another thing to worry about.

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to TANúñez

Tom, working out does increase bone calcification so it is probably the reason. Proteins don't make much sense for nails .
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TANúñez

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to DoctorX2k2

Thanks DoctorX2k2. I figured it had something to do with it. Along with the protein I also take many different supplements, vitamins and minerals.

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Georg

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

quote:

ORIGINAL: rombsix

especially when using that technique in tarantas where you play and arpeggio and then drag the A finger from high E to low E across all six strings - what is that called by the way?



I think it's called "arrastre".
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Ron.M

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to Georg

quote:

I think it's called "arrastre".


Ouch! ....That sounds painful....
Like a technique to make you sing in a higher register or something.

Ron

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Georg

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

Now I looked it up, so I definitely know that it's called arrastre.

Ron what you think of is called cante chico .
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Arash

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

I always file my nails to a round form and not too long. And i would say that i have strong nails .....but.......once in about 2 -4 weeks , it always happens that a right part of my index finger nail breaks. And it is always this part !!

It never happend that other nails break. I dont know why it is always this part of my i-finger

And so i have to fail back all my nails and wait again

This pic is only to show you which part i mean. this is not my hand.

really strang! any idea why ?



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koella

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

Yes I do.
It's caused by the many up and downstrokes of the indexfinger. ( especially in buleria compas )
I have the same trouble.

The (living !) part gets thinner and thinner on the right side. By the time the nail grows out it has become very weak there. I had the same problem when using a pick ( ) and strumming chords day after day in a funk band.

I put some ordinary adhesive tape on it now when I practise things like buleria rythm.
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Arash

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to koella

quote:


up and downstrokes of the indexfinger. ( especially in buleria compas )


indeed...this must be the reason...on second thought
In fact i practice bulerias much more than other palos the last months..

Thanks for the info....i will try out that cellotabe thing....
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Ricardo

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

Put on some glue. You will wear down the glue before the nail. After you wear off the glue, put more on.
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rombsix

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RE: It took five years to happen (in reply to rombsix

Romerito: I hear ya mate. Welcome to flamenco!

Ron: I did have a cat for five years. But then he ran away one day. That fat furball! Also, I did file the rest of my nails down. I started playing with short nails, and now I feel like i'm gonna get blisters on the tips of my right hand fingers... I have very sensitive skin ...

fevictor: It feels screwed up being human. Would have preferred staying superhuman ... at least when it comes to nail strength!

GuxDiBux: Thanks for the "arrastre" tip mate.

DocX2k2: Man, how come you know all that stuff and we are both early med-students? Either my university stinks, or you're a genius!

Ramzi

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