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rombsix
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 Solea por Bulerias, etc.
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Hello mates,
I have a question regarding the solea por bulerias (and the likes, ex. solea por tarantos, or "whatever por whatever") palo, if it can be considered one on its own. What is the theory behind this palo? For example, let us take solea por bulerias specifically: how does the counting go for that? Do you actually play the solea compas (F maj 7, C, F maj 7, E) chords or the buleria compas (A, B flat, etc.) chords? Please explain this a bit for me.
Also, is there a good website that I can refer to for theoretical explanations of the different palos (how to count, where the accents are, what chords characterize each palo's compas)? Or do I need to go buy stuff (coz I live in Lebanon, and there are nearly no flamenco resources here, and I can't order online for now since my country is at war and has been blockaded from land, sea, and air - I am glad I'm still alive; but that is not something flamenco-related...) ? If I need to buy books and other materials, can you tell me what to buy (give me some good examples) in the hopes that I can buy them when my country is no longer at war? Thanks.
Rombsix
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Date Aug. 6 2006 13:34:36
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Ricardo
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RE: Solea por Bulerias, etc. (in reply to rombsix)
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These differences have a lot more to do with the cante than the guitar by itself. Some old timers consider "Solea por Bulerias" not a separate palo. It is just Solea por Medio, there was also Solearilla too. You can sing Bulerias slow and that is technically "bulerias por solea", or bulerias al golpe, but now a days there are typical letras sung for solea por bulerias, different than what is typical for Solea or Bulerias. All 3 palos, the guitar has the same chord structure, only the tempo and rhythmic feel are different. So the real distinction is the melody of the cante.
Luis el Zambo has on the cd "Gloria Bendita" both solea "por medio" and solea por bulerias as separate tracks. At first they seem like the same thing, if you focus on guitar only. Although the SpB is a bit faster. But the real difference is both the melody of the letras and the timing of them. In terms of the guitar, they are playing more or less the same way in both cases. The same falsetas work for both.
Playing for dance really helps learn the subtleties of these things because a typical dance of Solea will morph from one palo to the next simply by speeding up. The way of playing, the feel of the rhythm has to change, but you are usually staying in the same key, whatever it may be.
Guitar solos can be named however the composer likes. Paco plays solea por medio on Fantasia flamenca (Celosa), calls it "Solea". On fuente y caudal he plays the same form, but calls it "bulerias por solea".
Ricardo
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Date Aug. 7 2006 16:29:42
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Ricardo
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RE: Solea por Bulerias, etc. (in reply to Guest)
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I agree with the points of the difference in "aire" for the guitar alone, in terms of Por medio vs por arriba, and of course when the tempo is even a little different (solea being slower), it makes a big difference. But all things equal, if the tempo is the same, the guitar plays the same solea por medio and solea por bulerias, no difference. Example is Tomatito plays the same stuff from "La Andonda", same speed and "aire" and everything, for Camaron's Solea.
It is important though to be able to play the same stuff at different speeds though, for example the way Chicuelo played more laid back (for solea vs the faster or livelier SpB version) as you mentioned, to give a better feel for what the singer sings. In my experience, playing SUPER LENTO for the singer or, more commonly, for the dancer, is EASIER in the arriba key than the por medio key, for some weird reason. But it does have a lot to do with the "aire" that the key offers. Most of the time solea por medio will be a little quicker, or at least it is more comfortable to play a bit quicker for the guitarist. When the singer wants to sing solea at 4 por medio, and the dancer wants it SUPER slow at the same time, I feel like I am at the dentist pulling teeth.
Ricardo
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Date Nov. 26 2006 17:35:09
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RE: Solea por Bulerias, etc. (in reply to edgar884)
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Hey edgar thanks for the chuscales tab(i need to download ptb)i listened to the mp3. Theres some good ideas in there, i thought it sounded nice. I dont mind the doubling up of guitars, even though some of it may be considered noodling near the end. Maybe turn the guitar up a bit higher than the compas trak though(thats just my taste). I liked the sound of the first lot of falsetas 00:00-01:35, thats the bit i might check out in the tab. Have you got this section with compas trak by any chance?
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Date Nov. 26 2006 23:56:52
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