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RE: Rumba patterns demonstrated by P... (in reply to Mark2)
I quite liked some of Mark’s Paco Serrano vid.
I like Ricardo’s Enrique vid more.
I find the others too jolly, and I have never been fond of Latin rhythm, I know that’s possibly heresy. I seem to be drawn to the darker flamenco performances.
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RE: Rumba patterns demonstrated by P... (in reply to silddx)
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find the others too jolly, and I have never been fond of Latin rhythm
Latin Musicans would not have a clue (or relate to) what Tomatito is doing with either one of his examples here, Rumba is not Latin at all. Perhaps you mean you don’t like Latin percussion instruments? Like they often impose the Cuban son or whatever with congas on top of the VERY EUROPEAN flamenco rumbas. Paco’s bass player in his final tours employed several Afro Cuban things into those concerts when he had a chance.
Rumba clave (Cuba)…xxXxXxxxXxxXxxxX. Repeat. Or XxxXxxxXxxXxXxxx. Repeat. Rumba Española (Spain or France, etc.) …xxxXxxXx. Repeat.
Totally different feel. The son clave (also Cuba) fits a little better.
I actually have people come up to me weekly that are Latin and know salsa and a big etc., and ask ME “how do we dance to this???”, even famous gypsy kings stuff. Then these old ladies from spain appear and put their arms up in the air show everyone how it is done. It is quite humorous.
Same with other Spanish words that are confused between Latin America and Spain:Tango, Guajira, Seguidilla, etc. Same word, totally different musical meaning.
RE: Rumba patterns demonstrated by P... (in reply to Ricardo)
Ah, I thought rumba was from South America. My apologies. But I don't generally enjoy its vibe in its traditional application, at least I don't think I do.
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RE: Rumba patterns demonstrated by P... (in reply to silddx)
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ORIGINAL: silddx
Ah, I thought rumba was from South America. My apologies. But I don't generally enjoy its vibe in its traditional application, at least I don't think I do.
The words “Rumba” and “Guajira” refer to music forms from Cuba (Central America not South). The idea of “Ida y vuelta” is that after Spain brought European music to Americas, it evolved its own elements via African Slaves and Native people from Mexico on down to Argentina, then returns to Southern Spain to get “flamencoized”. Only the song titles remain in the end. South America has completely different song forms from Mexico and Central America, so becareful generalizing. Typically it is by country, though all Music from the Andes mountains might have a similar flavor. Cumbia from Colombia, Tango from Argentina, Samba from Brazil, Merengue from DR, etc.
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