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Whats with the back strip patch work?!! Why would they do that? I could understand trying to use less material, but at least glue then straight. Just makes it look sloppy.
She is super cool… Rough crowd upthread but pay them no mind.
Would be a sin to mess with that fretboard and perhaps even the frets. Hard to say, that guitar had the **** played out if it for a vary good reason…
Don’t try to gold plate plate the old lady, she never was that kind of tart ;)
HR
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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy, doesn't have to be fast, should have some meat on the bones, can be raw or well done, as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.
It actually pains me to imagine what's about to happen to the old thing. As Ernie implies, it's served its purpose and bears the scars of a life hard lived. Not to be a downer, but if you're not well versed in sensitive restoration why not let it retire gracefully as an historical artifact? Sure, it was never a high end instrument and is nothing more than a wall hanging at this point, but that's likely better than what it's about to become.
If it comes to a poll, my vote will always go towards preserving the past. Leave it alone and let it live another day to tell its story to future generations. Find something more recent to use to hone your skills. It's yours to do with as you please, of course, but just remember once you've destroyed a record of the past it cannot be recovered. It's more valuable now in its current dilapidated state than it will ever be after it's been "restored". Which isn't necessarily saying much.
yess , theres any easy way? i dont recall learning something "new" or not so new on a easy way... even flamenco or some other stuff , theres allways a cost , financial or time consuming or both..
Somthing about this guitar is off. Took me a while to think it through.
I don’t think that label is original to that guitar.
I think is posable that guitar is at lot older then 1910 but that label could have been installed then.
It’s the bridge with no saddle or even saddle slot. Doesn’t that make it a pre-Torres guitar?
Somthing to think about.
Regardless cool as **** for sure and one I would be proud to have hanging on my wall.
I would find a way to stabilize the cracked up rib/ribs.
Remove that ugly glue patch or whatever on the lower bought and retint accordingly.
Repair the one broken peg and fabricate a similar peg to replace the missing one.
And that’s it.
Find a low tension set of strings but only bring her up a full step flat and only while playing then remove most of the tension cause.
Dont **** with that groovy fretboard or frets or anything else…
Where the F is @firefrets this one is right up his alley!
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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy, doesn't have to be fast, should have some meat on the bones, can be raw or well done, as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.
Perhaps it was origanly a wood saddle integral to the bridge? A moment with a ruler would tell all?
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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy, doesn't have to be fast, should have some meat on the bones, can be raw or well done, as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.
Please preserve it and save it for study. The label is likely original. The holes in the bridge were probably put in later (to mount some kind of wire saddle, maybe). The discolouration over the smashed part of the top is probably glue residue from gaffer tape that could be cleaned up with naphtha. And so on...
Look, the bridge is shot and the cost of properly repairing the cracked side and smashed top will likely exceed the value of the instrument. The fingerboard and frets are in horrible shape and probably need replacement. Any luthier willing to work on this at an 'affordable' rate probably shouldn't be given the job, and any luthier that should be probably won't want to. Ever wonder why there's so few of the old lower end instruments around? It's not like a crapload of them weren't made. Well, it's probably because the ones that weren't sent to the local dump were 'repaired' into oblivion.
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RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (in reply to ernandez R)
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A moment with a ruler would tell all?
This is a pleasant phrase. I like it.
Maybe you could patch that crack on the side with some noodles. There's a famous youtube restoration video where the guy does that!!! Genuinely... Noodles and glues and sands them.
meltdown is to be far away from europe , being an average maker and have afraid that those europeans take away business lmfao , like hes somebody to consider (from dozens/hundreds makers) lmfao. It seems like this forum its a unique revenue source for him.. thats a really meltdown Mate.
haha. im not really sure what or who you are talking about man. but saw all the deleted posts and without reason, it looked a little reactionary and its a shame.
haha. im not really sure what or who you are talking about man. but saw all the deleted posts and without reason, it looked a little reactionary and its a shame.
He is talking about Estebanana who admitted being insulted by the cheap-o guitar spam thread. Insult, injury, tantrum, delete posts, etc. Moving on.