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Manitas de Lata -> . (Mar. 15 2024 11:21:59)
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Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 16 2024 11:15:48)
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Stu -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 16 2024 15:28:38)
My god that's hideous! [:D] sorry. Maybe it's as gem. I wouldn't know. Whats with the back strip patch work?!! Why would they do that? I could understand trying to use less material, but at least glue then straight. Just makes it look sloppy. Nasty crack too. Good luck with it

Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 16 2024 16:12:50)
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Ricardo -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 16 2024 16:23:44)
quote: ORIGINAL: Manitas de Lata Just bought a beat up old Peg Head Juan Estruch to restore, soon will post some photos. Maybe a mistake , lets see if the luthier can handle. Wow. A real vintage Luthier made masterpiece there!!![:D][:D]

Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 16 2024 17:36:14)
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ernandez R -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 16 2024 19:48:29)
She is super cool… Rough crowd upthread but pay them no mind. Would be a sin to mess with that fretboard and perhaps even the frets. Hard to say, that guitar had the **** played out if it for a vary good reason… Don’t try to gold plate plate the old lady, she never was that kind of tart ;) HR

RobF -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 16 2024 20:51:11)
It actually pains me to imagine what's about to happen to the old thing. As Ernie implies, it's served its purpose and bears the scars of a life hard lived. Not to be a downer, but if you're not well versed in sensitive restoration why not let it retire gracefully as an historical artifact? Sure, it was never a high end instrument and is nothing more than a wall hanging at this point, but that's likely better than what it's about to become. If it comes to a poll, my vote will always go towards preserving the past. Leave it alone and let it live another day to tell its story to future generations. Find something more recent to use to hone your skills. It's yours to do with as you please, of course, but just remember once you've destroyed a record of the past it cannot be recovered. It's more valuable now in its current dilapidated state than it will ever be after it's been "restored". Which isn't necessarily saying much.

Stu -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 16 2024 20:59:46)
quote: which strip ? Inside the guitar where the two back pieces are joined. There's usually a thin strip of wood that sits over that join. However here, it seems, they didn't have one. And used a few squares of wood sporadically glued along that join. Some even penetrate the label Honestly, not meaning to be horrible but yeah it's not a nice thing to look at. I think Rob and Hernandez give you pleasant advice.

Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 16 2024 21:43:12)
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Stu -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 16 2024 22:02:39)
quote: This is also for me to learn what it takes to solve some of the issues (if so) , and will help future aquisitions of the "genre" I don't understand this. Learn what? Solve what issues? Issues with restoring old guitars? Do you wish to become s luthier?

Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 16 2024 23:39:42)
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Ricardo -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 18 2024 11:06:34)
quote: I don't understand this. Learn what? Solve what issues? It is called “learning…the HARD way”. [:D]

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 18 2024 12:41:01)
yess , theres any easy way? i dont recall learning something "new" or not so new on a easy way... even flamenco or some other stuff , theres allways a cost , financial or time consuming or both.. thats life [:D]

ernandez R -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 19 2024 2:33:50)
Somthing about this guitar is off. Took me a while to think it through. I don’t think that label is original to that guitar. I think is posable that guitar is at lot older then 1910 but that label could have been installed then. It’s the bridge with no saddle or even saddle slot. Doesn’t that make it a pre-Torres guitar? Somthing to think about. Regardless cool as ** for sure and one I would be proud to have hanging on my wall. I would find a way to stabilize the cracked up rib/ribs. Remove that ugly glue patch or whatever on the lower bought and retint accordingly. Repair the one broken peg and fabricate a similar peg to replace the missing one. And that’s it. Find a low tension set of strings but only bring her up a full step flat and only while playing then remove most of the tension cause. Dont ** with that groovy fretboard or frets or anything else… Where the F is @firefrets this one is right up his alley!

ernandez R -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 19 2024 2:38:07)
Perhaps it was origanly a wood saddle integral to the bridge? A moment with a ruler would tell all? HR

Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 19 2024 9:27:59)
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RobF -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 19 2024 10:54:32)
One last kick at the can... Please preserve it and save it for study. The label is likely original. The holes in the bridge were probably put in later (to mount some kind of wire saddle, maybe). The discolouration over the smashed part of the top is probably glue residue from gaffer tape that could be cleaned up with naphtha. And so on... Look, the bridge is shot and the cost of properly repairing the cracked side and smashed top will likely exceed the value of the instrument. The fingerboard and frets are in horrible shape and probably need replacement. Any luthier willing to work on this at an 'affordable' rate probably shouldn't be given the job, and any luthier that should be probably won't want to. Ever wonder why there's so few of the old lower end instruments around? It's not like a crapload of them weren't made. Well, it's probably because the ones that weren't sent to the local dump were 'repaired' into oblivion. Do you really need to do this?

Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 19 2024 12:40:12)
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Manitas de Lata -> [Deleted] (Mar. 22 2024 20:01:58)
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Stu -> RE: Juan Estruch 1910 (+-) (Mar. 24 2024 10:45:56)
quote: A moment with a ruler would tell all? This is a pleasant phrase. I like it. Maybe you could patch that crack on the side with some noodles. There's a famous youtube restoration video where the guy does that!!! Genuinely... Noodles and glues and sands them. http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=338284&p=3&tmode=1&smode=1

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Manitas de Lata -> . (Feb. 18 2025 12:12:26)
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silddx -> RE: . (Feb. 18 2025 12:45:16)
Why are you deleting so many of your posts, chum? And how did the Estruch restoration go?

Stu -> RE: . (Feb. 18 2025 13:53:55)
Hey what's going on man? Hope you're ok. This place can be a little rough but no need for the meltdown. [:)]

Manitas de Lata -> RE: . (Feb. 20 2025 11:07:12)
meltdown? meltdown is to be far away from europe , being an average maker and have afraid that those europeans take away business lmfao , like hes somebody to consider (from dozens/hundreds makers) lmfao. It seems like this forum its a unique revenue source for him.. thats a really meltdown Mate.

Stu -> RE: . (Feb. 20 2025 11:38:32)
haha. im not really sure what or who you are talking about man. but saw all the deleted posts and without reason, it looked a little reactionary and its a shame.

Ricardo -> RE: . (Feb. 20 2025 11:52:48)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stu haha. im not really sure what or who you are talking about man. but saw all the deleted posts and without reason, it looked a little reactionary and its a shame. He is talking about Estebanana who admitted being insulted by the cheap-o guitar spam thread. Insult, injury, tantrum, delete posts, etc. Moving on.

Stu -> RE: . (Feb. 20 2025 12:19:56)
Ok yes I did think it could be estebana but couldnt really recall the thread/details. wasnt that ages ago? oh well. looks like a meltdown to me. [:D] instead of taking the feedback and self relfecting or even saying "oh sorry" its mass deleting of posts? doesnt seem cool

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