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but could you give any practical or technical examples to support your statement.

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

FOOD FIGHT !

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ORIGINAL: Stu

Fascinating stuff but could you give any practical or technical examples to support your statement.

I'm not trying to be smart or challenge you. In genuinely interested why sorry scale is no good.

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I see why it's problematic then but how many of us are doing that regularly? Even the pros? Seems like the stories here of that, are remarkable cos they are rare?

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I see why it's problematic then but how many of us are doing that regularly? Even the pros? Seems like the stories here of that, are remarkable cos they are rare?

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ORIGINAL: devilhand

Anyone able to press down and play all E notes on guitar at the same time?

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ORIGINAL: devilhand

Anyone able to press down and play all E notes on guitar at the same time? If you can, let me know. Who knows maybe over 190cm tall guys can do it.

Low and high E are played open.
The first finger on 4th string 2nd fret
The second finger on 2nd string 5th fret
The third finger on 5th string 7th fret
The fourth finger on 3rd string 9th fret

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The guitarist (I was second guitar in this one) said he had worked his falsetas a fret lower and it was too late to change all the music day of the show. Gypsy language even was used and a lot of yelling, and they stopped talking to each other for some years because of this.

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ORIGINAL: rombsix

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The guitarist (I was second guitar in this one) said he had worked his falsetas a fret lower and it was too late to change all the music day of the show. Gypsy language even was used and a lot of yelling, and they stopped talking to each other for some years because of this.

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The guitarist (I was second guitar in this one) said he had worked his falsetas a fret lower and it was too late to change all the music day of the show. Gypsy language even was used and a lot of yelling, and they stopped talking to each other for some years because of this.

The details are even funnier. The end of the argument came when the other guitarist pointed out I was playing in a different tonality, and because I did not use a capo to match the key, I would have to retune my guitar in the middle of the show. The singer was baffled by this, as the Guitarist was utilizing the singer’s ignorance of guitar mechanics and music transposition to put it to bed. However, the singer was very skeptical because the other guy was playing in capo 3 D# phrygian. I had worked out my own accompaniment to his part with my own harmonies and counter themes/chords etc, in open position Taranta (F#). The singer wanted a HIGHER pitch to sing, rendering the D# capo 3 guitar to run out of fret room up high. So the singer was thinking, why would Ricardo need to retune, couldn’t he just put on a capo to increase the pitch as any traditional guitarist would?? So in the dressing room the singer confronted me in private: “is what he saying true compadre? You can’t play in a higher pitch without retune?”….and there I was stuck in the middle of the politics. But I refuse to be a liar, so I said “I can use a capo but HE won’t be able to play his part, he would have to re work it to a different tonality”…

The thing is, the singer actually preferred what I was playing as it sounded more “traditional” anyway, and whatever the lead guitar was doing sounded like “Jax fusion de mierda!” . We stuck to the program in the end. I have a funnier story where a cantaora could not handle singing two different cantes (Guajiras and a buleria in major like Pajarerro etc, cuz she had no other fast ending prepared for Guajiras) in the same key….unhappy with either 3 or 4 por medio (La mayor) for one cante or the other. After several tries she insisted that I change keys at the end….but it is in the middle of heavy footwork where I am driving hard compas. So the only way I could achieve such a thing was with two capos, so that I could flick one Dunlop style capo off after the llamada. It was so bizarre sounding and everybody was rolling their eyes, but I had no choice.

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ORIGINAL: oldskoolfool

I thought that the longer scale would be harder to play but it doesn't. I just bought a Jeronimo Perez which is 670 and is easiest guitar I have played yet.

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The details are even funnier. The end of the argument came when the other guitarist pointed out I was playing in a different tonality, and because I did not use a capo to match the key, I would have to retune my guitar in the middle of the show. The singer was baffled by this, as the Guitarist was utilizing the singer’s ignorance of guitar mechanics and music transposition to put it to bed. However, the singer was very skeptical because the other guy was playing in capo 3 D# phrygian. I had worked out my own accompaniment to his part with my own harmonies and counter themes/chords etc, in open position Taranta (F#). The singer wanted a HIGHER pitch to sing, rendering the D# capo 3 guitar to run out of fret room up high. So the singer was thinking, why would Ricardo need to retune, couldn’t he just put on a capo to increase the pitch as any traditional guitarist would?? So in the dressing room the singer confronted me in private: “is what he saying true compadre? You can’t play in a higher pitch without retune?”….and there I was stuck in the middle of the politics. But I refuse to be a liar, so I said “I can use a capo but HE won’t be able to play his part, he would have to re work it to a different tonality”…

The thing is, the singer actually preferred what I was playing as it sounded more “traditional” anyway, and whatever the lead guitar was doing sounded like “Jax fusion de mierda!” . We stuck to the program in the end. I have a funnier story where a cantaora could not handle singing two different cantes (Guajiras and a buleria in major like Pajarerro etc, cuz she had no other fast ending prepared for Guajiras) in the same key….unhappy with either 3 or 4 por medio (La mayor) for one cante or the other. After several tries she insisted that I change keys at the end….but it is in the middle of heavy footwork where I am driving hard compas. So the only way I could achieve such a thing was with two capos, so that I could flick one Dunlop style capo off after the llamada. It was so bizarre sounding and everybody was rolling their eyes, but I had no choice.

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ORIGINAL: oldskoolfool

I thought that the longer scale would be harder to play but it doesn't. I just bought a Jeronimo Perez which is 670 and is easiest guitar I have played yet.

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Apparently Miguel Salado gave feedback and helped Jeronimo Perez develop in his earlier days and encouraged a longer scale.

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I helped Jero long before Miguel and he was influenced by my Gerundino. I played dozens of his early guitars. His mother is cousin of my wife

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What year is it? It seems he used to make more 670 scale in the past. These days 655 seems more common, maybe he still occasionally builds a longer scale.

Apparently Miguel Salado gave feedback and helped Jeronimo Perez develop in his earlier days and encouraged a longer scale. Now Perez guitars are going to higher end dealers, perhaps they have encouraged a shorter scale for that market?

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ORIGINAL: devilhand

Anyone able to press down and play all E notes on guitar at the same time?