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 RE: Are you a loner? (in reply to fevictor)
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Yes, I am considered a loner by most. I walk my own way in everything I do, and it´s one of the main reasons I build guitars, which is a very lonely job. Well there is doggy and the radio.
It´s nice, and I never consider myself lonely. I have a wonderfull girlfriend and some very nice and close friends. I just like to be on my own a lot, so that I can do what I like, like building and playing guitars. 
Very often musicians are loners, also because you need to practice a lot, especially when working music like flamenco.
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Date Mar. 11 2006 6:35:51
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Gecko
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From: New Mexico
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RE: Are you a loner? (in reply to fevictor)
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Interesting topic! I have been a “loner” since early childhood, being born and raised on a remote ranch in the American West where there was no one of my age within 30 miles. Spent most of my earlier years alone on a horse riding fence lines. During my middle years I was more or less forced to interact with other people at work, yet after work I still preferred isolation.
Today, I have a very small, close circle of friends and rarely associate with other people outside of that circle. When meeting new people I’m often considered aloof, but that is just because I really don’t know how to interact with them face-to-face. I’m simply not a “glad -handing, small-talk, schmooze.”
It is probably because of this that I have migrated to classical and flamenco guitar, because it is something I can do, or attempt to do, without having to be around other people. Yes I know that flamenco should involve other people (bailaor/cantaor, etc). Still I would wager that the majority of us play mostly alone.
Unfortunately, the older I get the more isolated I become.
My wife, on the other hand, is just the opposite which, on occasion, creates some friction.
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Date Mar. 11 2006 10:56:02
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Ron.M
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RE: Are you a loner? (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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In other words, maybe part of the reason most of us are loners is that we are self-selected by being on the internet (instead of being out in the world).
Nah Mike!
Who could be more "out in the world" than yourself, Jon, Ricardo amongst others?
Thing is, nobody in your immediate vicinity is remotely interested in the minute details of Flamenco rhythm, harmony and general guitar technique out there in the "real world"..be it Phoenix, Cairo, London, Paris, Hamburg, Gotenberg, Sydney or Buenos Aires.
Whenever have you had a train journey and had a good discussion with the person next to you about the pros and cons of playing Bulerias in sixes?
This is what this Forum is about IMO.. Long may it live!! 
cheers
Ron
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Date Mar. 12 2006 20:10:32
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Ramin
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From: Toronto, Canada
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RE: Are you a loner? (in reply to ricecrackerphoto)
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solo flamenco guitar and classical guitar are very much loner instruments.
I tend to disagree with the above statement. Classical guitar may be a loner instrument, but flamenco is definitely not. My understanding is that flamenco is a social phenomenon, at least that's how it came to be.
With respect to being a loner, I am at the opposite end of the spectrum, i.e., I am overly social. I love to be around people, interact with them, and make fun of them, myself, and life in general. I learn a lot from people, valuable experiences none of which is offered in any university!
Life is ultimately about balancing the extreme possiblities (or opposite ends) it has to offer, life & death, joy & sorrow, success & failure, ... I think the only way one can be "happy" in life is to learn to balance these extremes and this, I believe, has nothing to do with one's artistic talents, tendencies, or the level of success one is striving to achieve.
Ramin
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Date Mar. 13 2006 15:11:09
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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RE: Are you a loner? (in reply to fevictor)
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Me? Loner. Not litterally now, but the personality as refered too, yeah that is me. Since being married and into flamenco, I party all the time, play almost nightly with others, make contacts around the world, do social gatherings, etc. But what I have found is myself in the company of other LONERS, if that makes sense. The co-misery that these people feel together is an amazing feeling. In terms of flamenco and music, I have communicated with others very deeply, without even having a common verbal language in some cases. All these deep feelings I find typically in the loner type personalities.
My best friend is a Bolivian Indian. He talked about music in the Andes with his people, a collective harmony, where everyone must contribute his little part to the collective social musical sound. What attracted him to flamenco was the individuality. He identified with it, the fact that yeah, there is a small group working together, but the individuals could all be independent, each strong on his own. You would not say in his culture "ole tu, you over there you are doing great!", which is what happens to each member of a flamenco group.
It is not just the internet, tons of personalities are online. People into flamenco tend to be those loner types. Even in Spain.
Ricardo
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Date Mar. 17 2006 17:44:50
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i am loner i belive but without a close friend s this is the problem but in the same times two much friends waste time alot but ..........we need them sometimes
