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fromano

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Hello, new member here. I’ve found very useful discussions in this forum when researching about flamenco guitar construction.

I just started attempting to build my first flamenco guitar ! So looking forward to more discussions.

I’m originally from Argentina but I live in the US (Boston Area).

Thanks to everyone in advance for any advice.

Fabian

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Piwin

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RE: New Member (in reply to fromano)

Welcome to the foro, Fabian!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2021 3:39:25

ernandez R

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RE: New Member (in reply to fromano)

Fromano,

Welcome. Lot of good info and you can dig back years. I still do when I can’t sleep, I find little lutherie gems.
I’m on guitar 14 but making four almost at the same time trying to save some time but it seldom works that way.
Looking forward to hear about your progress and of course we guitar builders are voyeurs and like to see what the others are building so don’t be afraid to to post some photos.

HR

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2021 5:27:41

rombsix

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RE: New Member (in reply to fromano)

quote:

I’m originally from Argentina but I live in the US (Boston Area).

Do you dance Argentine tango?

I do.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2021 15:40:45

kitarist

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RE: New Member (in reply to rombsix)

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ORIGINAL: rombsix

quote:

I’m originally from Argentina but I live in the US (Boston Area).

Do you dance Argentine tango?

I do.

Probably specializes now in tango vals, specifically the vals Boston 'Desde El Alma'

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fromano

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RE: New Member (in reply to fromano)

Haha thanks for the welcome !

I did learn to dance some tango at some point actually. Is not the case anymore, but in the times of my grandfather you needed to know some dancing to get a girl, so my grandfather and buddies used to dance with each other to learn.

More than the dance though I love the music. I also own a Bandoneon made in 1919, learning to play it is in the very large to do list.

I do wonder sometimes if the Argentine Tango shares roots with the Spanish Flamenco Tangos, I think it does, I recognize a lot of signatures when I listen to flamenco Tangos. Argentine tango was in fact played mostly using Spanish guitar until the Bandoneon and other instruments such as the piano were Introduced sometime around the 1920s.

I’ll post some images of my guitar building process soon. It is my first guitar build ever of any kind so it should be fun.

Cheers !

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2021 20:55:01

rombsix

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RE: New Member (in reply to fromano)

quote:

I do wonder sometimes if the Argentine Tango shares roots with the Spanish Flamenco Tangos, I think it does, I recognize a lot of signatures when I listen to flamenco Tangos. Argentine tango was in fact played mostly using Spanish guitar until the Bandoneon and other instruments such as the piano were Introduced sometime around the 1920s.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=312415&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=argentine%2Ctango&tmode=&smode=&s=#312518

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 9 2021 17:52:29

fromano

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RE: New Member (in reply to rombsix)

Thanks ! I will read it in more detail when I have more time (It's a long thread).

I'm no musicologist, just an Argentinian guy who likes Flamenco, but I found an interesting connection:

For example when I listen to Sabicas "Punta y Tacon" to me is has a lot of old school Tango elements to it (or viceversa most likely). This song is a Farruca, so I started thinking maybe Argentinian Tango maybe evolved from Farrucas rather than Tangos.

I mentioned this talking on a zoom chat to my Flamenco guitar teacher, a guy in Spain who grew up in Jerez de la Frontera, so very familiar with the palos having grown around it. He started playing different related songs and then he said the Farruca is related to a palo from Malaga called "Tango de Malaga". So that striked me, the Farruca in Malaga was also called "Tango". (Tango de Malaga = Malaga's Tango).

So my latest throught is maybe Arg Tango evolved from the Farrucas from Malaga, that they also call Tango over there.

Just saying, I'm not a PhD in music.

Cheers

Fabian

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 22 2021 3:22:29