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RE: !!!John Walsh Solea Falseta Challenge!!!
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Dudnote
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RE: !!!John Walsh Solea Falseta Chal... (in reply to Leñador)
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ORIGINAL: Leñador quote:
In my opinion we should make clear what is to be voted as Technique and what is Aire. Technique would be more towards the "are all the pitches in there and do they sound cleanly?" but without caring so much for the rhythm. If you miss notes or make some passages blurred, you'll lose points. As opposed to that, Aire would be "compas, expressiveness, etc" and your personal touch wouldn't be seen as "a failure". If you do a different rasgueo or accent, you wouldn't lose points (might even win them) but if you lose compas or get your r.h. fingers trapped between the strings, that would cost you some. I'm completely on board with this description.... Sounds good to me. Rui, I'm not clear where your 2 slices of bread (a bit of compas either side) to sandwich the falsetta can fit into this scheme. Learning to play an advanced falsetta with good aire and technique is a very different challenge to making an arrangement within which to put the falsetta. That is not to say I am against your idea - in fact it is a very natural idea, all guitarists have to find arrangements within which to place their falsettas - but the current scoring is maybe not best adapted to it. One option would be to add a third score for the overall arrangement and maintain the aire and technique scores for the falsetta only. Like you might score a sandwich based on the quality of the bread, the butter and the filling. Another detail that needs some agreement is how think the slices of bread can be. If there are many entries judges are probably not going to want to listen to a lot of 6 minute compositions. Perhaps it is for judges to decide what is and isn't to long and penalize the "bread" part accordingly. Alternatively we put a limit either side, lets say 30 to 40 seconds - not sure if that would be enough or too much. To be discussed. Bravo for the string deal!!!
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Date May 1 2015 15:26:52
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Sr. Martins
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RE: !!!John Walsh Solea Falseta Chal... (in reply to El Kiko)
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i think yous are overthinking it .. you dont need to tell the judges how to judge ,,..or re adjust things for BPM and all that ... just let them here the music and put their choices in order ... The judges are the participants. If there were no clear goals, nobody would know what the challenge was about. In this case, Technique & Aire should be the goal and the target of the voting. quote:
the only other thing i see is that the falseta chosen , while being nice etc, is also really hard , this would by its nature omit many people that would otherwise have joined in . Maybe now you see why there are considerations regarding the difficulty level (speed, simplified parts, cleanliness, etc) when it comes to Technique. Someone who plays it at half speed of the original shouldn't get a 9 or 10 on Technique but could score higher on Aire if that slowing down was put to good "expressive use" on that department. quote:
it would take me a while to get that falseta sorted in my head .. and then a bit more to play it enough to get any natural personality into it .. You'll have time to decide.
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