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constructordeguitarras
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Joined: Jan. 29 2012
From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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RE: Professional Model? (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)
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If you decide to use pneumatic tools to apply the finish post on the foro and I'll make additional recommendations regarding tools and setup. Thanks, Pgh_. I worked for three years as a spray finisher in an office furniture factory, so I know something about it. I was spraying conversion varnish, which i understand Robert Ruck has used. I examined one such guitar and it was interesting how he left all the texture of the finish alone. It is incredibly tough stuff. For that, you definitely need a spray booth. I'm thinking I may get several instruments ready for finishing by the time there is warm sunny weather here and spray them in the backyard using aerosol cans from Stew-Mac, which I have done before (ages ago). Or at least one and see if anyone wants to buy it. So, I am thinking no side purflings, no bee sting, no french polish--those might be the only differences from my higher-priced guitars. Possibly a pre-made rosette and possibly no top purfling; I'm still considering. Besides the finishing, it is the ornamentation that adds a lot of work. I don't want to use woods that are different from what I use now. I have never judged soundboards by their visual characteristics, which is how the really high-priced ones are judged.
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Date Feb. 21 2015 23:46:47
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Anders Eliasson
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RE: Professional Model? (in reply to constructordeguitarras)
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Ethan, if you can survive building what you do now, then DONT MAKE A CHEAPER MODEL!!!!! What may easily happen is (best option) that you will start selling less top guitars and slowly converting yourself into a second range (2A) luthier. (worst option) digging your own grave. Is that what you have in mind? The difference in work is very small, like 90 - 95% but the income is around 30% smaller. Its like if other members (non luthiers) were told that they will have to work the same and earn 30% less or work 30% more and earn what they do now. Would they then accept all the "kind" advices you are getting here? They are just interested in getting a cheaper guitar. Our business is already pushed out into the limit of what it can take. Right now, these persons are bragging about our art and our fantastic work. When you and I and others have stopped because we are either broke or burned out, these guys will not care. They will forget us and start bragging about someone elses work while they sit in their office chairs and eat donuts and drink coffee. Those telling you that 2000,-$ for a luthier built guitar is a good price, should think about what they write. Yes, I´m direct, honest and not hiding anything, but this is real life and not someones mental game while they are bored. Now I have to take yet another break from this place because I have to take care of myself and visiting this place is not good for my health. Dont ask me about my own experience with making cheaper models. You can read the answer between the lines. Just one final advice: If you decide to walk the plank, dont call it a professional model. Not because its absurd or pathetic but because then you´ll have to answer I dont know how many mails from dudes not understanding.
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Date Feb. 22 2015 10:05:35
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timoteo
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From: Seattle, USA
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RE: Professional Model? (in reply to constructordeguitarras)
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I am pretty sure it is already too late to become an exhibitor at Maryhurst this year. I had considered it before, but decided it probably wouldn't be worth it because flamenco guitars are such a specialized niche. I'm not sure but I don't think it's too late - they always seem to be a bit last-minute about the show - they don't even have any of the 2015 information up on the website yet, it's all about last year. Flamenco is a niche, yes, but that show is all about niches. Look at the exhibitor list and you'll see makers of tars, ouds, sitars, vihuelas etc. and at least six flamenco guitar makers including Robert Ruck and Peter Tsiorba. Ruck always sits there with just one classical and one flamenco on his table. If nothing else, a chance to pick his brains might be worth the trip. The place is always packed, and the attendees are exactly the sort of people who might buy your guitars. Even one sale/commission as a result would pay for the trip. quote:
Regarding a deluxe product, I'll have to think about that some more. I have very strong preferences about how much decoration a flamenco guitar should have and I don't want to make something that is gaudy to me. Maybe I am too happy with what I have been making. Take into account it doesn't have to be about ornamentation - your premium guitars could simply be those 10% of your normal production that sound the best, the ones you're especially proud of. That way you're assuring the buyers that they're getting the best you make, which is always worth a premium price.
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Date Feb. 22 2015 21:46:33
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