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jmb

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Joined: Oct. 14 2014
From: Vallecas - Madrid - Spain

The mistery of the broken string...

Hi! Due to the circustances I do not play my Conde guitar quite often. It is not at home, it is with my family in Madrid. I play it once per month more or less (Yes it is sad, but that's life).

The curious fact is that I leave the guitar in its case and a found the 5h string broken repetedely when I open it. It is broken in the middle, not in the bridge or in the nut. It did not happen before and the case seems ok. Does anybody know what could be happening?

My 5th is usually a high tension Hannabach, but it has happened with 5th from La Bella sets too.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 20 2014 22:44:50

rombsix

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RE: Mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

Are they all 5th strings from the same batch? Maybe the batch was defective...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 1:33:01

jmb

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From: Vallecas - Madrid - Spain

RE: Mistery of the broken string... (in reply to rombsix)

It could be because I preferably buy them in the same guitar shop. But it has happenend with LaBella from another guitar shop.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 1:35:53

beno

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

You may have something in the case, you didn't notice?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 7:49:19

El Kiko

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

Someone else is messing when your not there

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 10:06:34

estebanana

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

Try loosening the string when you are away.

Usually that kind of stuff happens because of the Guitarra Chupacabra is living in your closet. Have a quemada party, drink some machaco, use some Lysol in the closet and the chupacabra will leave.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 11:22:23

tele

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to El Kiko)

quote:

ORIGINAL: El Kiko

Someone else is messing when your not there

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 13:10:45

jmb

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From: Vallecas - Madrid - Spain

RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to estebanana)

Jaja!!! It a Felipe Conde's, The case has key and I checked the case (one of them with thickness velvet)... At this moment Estebanana's theory is the most feasible. The Chupacabras seems to be a little bit posh... My Alhambra is unharmed.

Let's see in the future.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 13:35:53

Ricardo

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

This always happens to me too when I leave the guitar in the case untouched for a while and the weather changes. It is due to humidity changes. Normally the D string goes but has happened to almost any string in the past. Some rare occasions two strings go.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 15:00:10

estebanana

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

Ricardo, stop trying to come up with some rational reason with your stupid science.

It's the String Chupacabra. Even Carl Sagan said that.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 15:12:11

El Kiko

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From: The South Ireland

RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to estebanana)

\well cant argue with Carl Sagan ....

course hes in Madrid so it would be that bear , claws break the strings , ja sabes jmb el oso y el madroño ...cuidado tio .. !!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2014 17:09:15

Chilli Fingers

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to El Kiko)

Its definatly the String Chupacabra. When you leave the guitar unused for an extended period, sprinkle a ring of salt around the entire case. Be sure to not leave any breaks in the salt ring or it wont work.

Holy water may offer some benefits but the salt ring is usually more reliable.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2014 3:18:16

estebanana

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to Chilli Fingers)

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Its definatly the String Chupacabra. When you leave the guitar unused for an extended period, sprinkle a ring of salt around the entire case. Be sure to not leave any breaks in the salt ring or it wont work.

Holy water may offer some benefits but the salt ring is usually more reliable.

And wear a garlic necklace and have a queimada ceremony.

http://www.gaguel.com/queimada.htm

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2014 3:36:15

jmb

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From: Vallecas - Madrid - Spain

RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

Thanks friends, I will talk with some specialists in black magic.

Now I am sure. It is always the 5th, and it has bring the satanic pentagon to my mind... May be too many siguirillas has been played in that guitar and my blanca has turn into a NEGRA, strictly speaking.

Anyway, Ricardo, do you have any recomendation?.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2014 7:20:40

Chilli Fingers

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

Ill chip in while you await ricardos answer, but im sure he will agree with me.

Finely ground sea salt is best, rock salt leaves too many gaps. If you have to use iodised table salt it should still work but you may need to do a double ring or make your first ring thicker. The anti caking agent in common table salt can bring things undone so you may need to reapply more often. And don't even think about using chicken salt.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2014 9:35:30

SephardRick

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

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My 5th is usually a high tension Hannabach, but it has happened with 5th from La Bella sets too.

Paranormal? Well, I hope not for you and my sake. LOL!

I've started having the same problem with Hannabach 815 high tensions on my classical guitars. I quit using them and the breakage stopped. I'll have to say I used Hannabachs for a long time, over twenty years. Something must have changed in their forumla in past few years. Also, been having breakage problems with Thomastik-Infeld too.

But, no problem with LeBella strings. I use the 820B series.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2014 13:28:49

estebanana

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to SephardRick)

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Paranormal? Well, I hope not for you and my sake. LOL!

I've started having the same problem with Hannabach 815 high tensions on my classical guitars. I quit using them and the breakage stopped. I'll have to say I used Hannabachs for a long time, over twenty years. Something must have changed in their forumla in past few years. Also, been having breakage problems with Thomastik-Infeld too.

But, no problem with LeBella strings. I use the 820B series.

You need some gris-gris and some salt rings. Lordy yes you do.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2014 13:36:56

SephardRick

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to estebanana)

Ha!

Something about those salt crystals. They just grab them there haints and don't turn 'um loose 'til da lite of day!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2014 14:47:58

Ricardo

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RE: The mistery of the broken string... (in reply to jmb)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jmb

Thanks friends, I will talk with some specialists in black magic. Now I am sure. It is always the 5th, and it has bring the satanic pentagon to my mind... May be too many siguirillas has been played in that guitar and my blanca has turn into a NEGRA, strictly speaking.

Anyway, Ricardo, do you have any recomendation?.

Yes, put some gypsy treated rosemary and a 5E bill in the soundhole and leave it in there while you are gone.

Or you can loosen the strings when you travel.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 23 2014 13:15:59