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Leñador
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 RE: NEW YORK TEACHER PLEASE (in reply to Leñador)
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Hate hate hate. Are you really in a position to cast so much judgment on everything? You seem to have strong opinions on other people's playing ability and musical taste. What makes you so great? Oh, nothing?
Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it's worth something.
I'm sorry, I seemed to have missed the part of the foro rules that says keep your opinions to yourself... 
But you're right, I hate, I hate a lot. I'm misanthropic bitter and angry, not sure why, just always been that way. Unfortunately for those who don't agree with me it's a part of my personality that I like. If you do something professionally you put yourself out there for criticism. I deal with it at my job as does EVERYONE else in the world so to give someone a pass because they're an "artist" is bullsh. Sometimes in my job I have to make design decisions, there is no right or wrong but I deal with the criticism that comes with the decision I made. It's called maning up and not being an over sensitive pussy. I'm very supportive to new players and amateurs on the foro and only criticize when asked to. But if you're a pro, you're fair game. Every pro on here though is top notch and I personally don't have anything to critize them on. However should some douche bag like Benise etc etc wander himself over to the forum, I'll speak my peace, and back it up too son. 
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Still you might be surprised how much one can overlook/hear when things are not spelled out to you. ...i'm the living prove of that :-). Before i entered conservatory i only had sound recordings of flamenco (internet didn't exist and the first lesson videos still had to be made..... even flamenco cd's were quite rare yet).
I get you Erik, but again, if you're a pro, you're open to criticism.
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Date Jan. 22 2014 21:15:24
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pink
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RE: NEW YORK TEACHER PLEASE (in reply to chester)
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I hear you KMM and like I said, afterwards I felt a little bad, but this guy I don't think had the same limitations as your father. He talked about living in Spain and studying with Niño Ricardo among other "great maestros".
Hate hate hate. Are you really in a position to cast so much judgment on everything? You seem to have strong opinions on other people's playing ability and musical taste. What makes you so great? Oh, nothing?
Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it's worth something.
chester,
''Hate hate hate''
Three very strong words which you brandish freely with YOUR own opinionated version of what was said......not sure your opinion is worth jack.....its aggressive and totally unnecessary.....of course my words could be wrong, they are after all, only an opinion, but could be conceived in an aggressive hateful way which in turn could be taken as an act of war like for example invading a country and in turn could result in the deaths of millions.....but , wait a minute that's not what was said at all.....I know let's start again
Hi Lenador, my name is chester ....not sure I agree with your comments because......
That sounds better....less aggressive ,in ya face, out there....bit more human
Grow up , not meaning to sound hateful and all that.
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pink
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Date Jan. 22 2014 21:49:08
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Leñador
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From: Los Angeles
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RE: NEW YORK TEACHER PLEASE (in reply to Leñador)
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From your clients - sure, but some idiot on an anonymous internet forum talking sh1t is precisely that.
Sorry to burst your bubble but my work is in magazines and on architectural websites, I've seen it criticized by "idiots" on internet forums. You know what, sometimes I look back and say, "Sh1t, he's right….". Thems the breaks.
I never once claimed my opinion is worth more than anyone else's by the way. But since you wanna go there. Here's an idea of how it breaks down.
Concerning flamenco: Diego Del Morao's opinion is worth more the Ricardo's, Ricardo's is worth more then mine, mine is worth more then someone who's brand new. Does it mean that persons always right? No, but depending on credentials it carries more or less weight. Being that I've been playing music since I was 12 I feel as though my opinion about music carries "some weight".
Anyways, I wish the best to Mr. Hauser but it's quite obvious he's CURRENTLY not in the same class as the other PROFESSIONAL flamenco players.
Don't be scared of criticism Chester, embrace it, it's not bad. I put my stupid little videos up and embrace every criticism I get, some I take to heart some I choose to disregard. It's life bro, maybe some day you'll be comfortable enough to put your neck up on the chopping block and post a video, until then, understand you've given us nothing by which to gauge the weight of your own opinion.
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Date Jan. 23 2014 0:33:36
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Mark2
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From: San Francisco
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RE: NEW YORK TEACHER PLEASE (in reply to KMMI77)
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Absolutely correct. And we don't know what the guy sounded like 20-30 years ago when he was likely in his prime. The flamenco scene remains very small in the US. I didn't know MH, but I'd heard of him. Guys who started playing ten years ago and put down guys who were into it 40 years ago just don't know what it was like trying to learn in the 60's , 70's 80's. Even records were hard to come by, then if you slowed down a record, it would drop an octave. transcriptions-there were few, and compared to today's prices, expensive. One guy said he learned compas by smoking weed and taping speakers to his body while he blasted bulerias. He became a very good guitarist. Until Jason moved to the Bay Area in the 90's no one here could do fast picado. No one could really play modern style, much less explain it.
Really the only way to learn was to study with someone who knew, and they were far and few between, or simply go to Spain for as long as possible. I've written before when people started putting down Anita Sheer, unless you know people that are in their 50's and 60's who learned when they were young, you have no idea what it was like. As I wrote then, one day in the near future, people will watch videos recorded today by people some of you respect, and they will say how much they suck.
I'm not surprised at all that Pedro killed it, but I remain amazed that a guy with limited experience could deduce that he wasn't worthy to teach..........
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Aight, I felt bad trashing the guy so hard so I went back and listened again. It IS as bad as I remember BUT, look how he holds the mic, I think he's arthritic, he evidently studied with Niño Ricardo so he's been at it a while... I dunno....
I think it's important to remember the time and era guitarists like this guy come from. It was extremely difficult and time consuming for outsiders to learn anything in those days. Many of them had to learn blind. Just a guitar and a record. The lucky ones could afford to travel to spain and have a few lessons every now and again. But we all know how many lessons we need to actually move forward. Imagine no other guitarists around ,no videos dedicated to teaching, no foro and no you tube videos and lessons.
We have it so easy that many of us should be a lot better than we are. Someone who has played, promoted, shared, loved and listened to flamenco for as many years as this guy deserves some respect IMO. For him it is a lifetimes work.
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