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I have one or 2 which i will share to make this both ways but if you have some i am looking for some if anyone is into the topic
while there's some picado there its not my only focus ...looking for small remates that make nice ends to falsetas, picado, rithm etc...alzapua, arrpegio whatever...
EDIT.. In fact i am interested in anything to do with Fandangos De Huelva atm
from paco
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RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
Ok, here's another one, a favorite of mine, it's attributed to Enrique de Melchor. I used to have it as a TablEdit file, but it's disappeared to so I just rewrote it in Sibelius. It's more or less a full falseta that ends with a nice remate.
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RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
Hello mates,
I went over all of these remates (except for the Manuel Granados one) and put them into Guitar Pro 5. I also exported the final product into midi and PDF. The file attached here has been renamed to .jpeg to allow it to be uploaded. Please download it, rename it to .zip, and extract the contents to view them.
I need your help - some of the remates posted above by Florian or Tortuga were not in context (meaning they were cut out of a piece or something). I am working on these because I need to learn many ways of playing compas and ending with remates or cierres. I will use these remates for my DarsGuitar course on Fandangos de Huelva. There are about 15 remates that I came up with (some very simple, some are variations of others, etc.). Please go over all the remates, and tell me if each one of them stands alone correctly, or whether any of them are wrong (in terms of the stuff played before them, or the total compas counts of each, etc.).
RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
wow you put alot of work into this...great man, i will slowly go through some but it will take me a while...i know it would have been smart of me to have marked the name of the track i got the remates from or save the audio example alongside it ...didn't think at the time, will try and find audios for some, vicente should be easy for example since he has only got 1 recorded fandangos
btw one other variation of playing compas that i prefer is staying longer on A minor and skipping that change to the G going straight to the F, you have seen probably this vid but i think i do it here..or on the other one
damn i dont know how to add a facebook video so heres the link to my photos, at the top next to it theres also the videos page, the videos are called "late night practice" and "more fandngos and verdiales practice"
RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
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wow you put alot of work into this...great man, i will slowly go through some but it will take me a while...i know it would have been smart of me to have marked the name of the track i got the remates from or save the audio example alongside it ...didn't think at the time, will try and find audios for some, vicente should be easy for example since he has only got 1 recorded fandangos
Indeed I put in a lot of work to get this done. I'm not that interested in the actual context (I know the Vicente stuff came from Mensaje, etc.), but rather would like to know how to use these remates in the basic, simple context of chording compas or simple cierres. This is what I tried to do with the stuff provided by you or Tortuga on this thread, in the hopes of coming up with stuff that can be used in any situation because it will apply to everything rather than just a specific passage. Because of this, I think some of the final products I came up with are not 100% correct, and that is why I need your help...
RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
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in the hopes of coming up with stuff that can be used in any situation because it will apply to everything rather than just a specific passage....
I understand man, i am not saying for the music but hearing the original context in which was used might help you determine where in the compas he used it, what type of thing did he use it with, i am not by any means an expert on the dos and donts on fandangos except for obvious compas things, all i can say is if it feels right or wrong in comparassement to others i have heard before, but something that might feel right or wrong to me might not feel the same to the next guy
sometimes i am using a particular verdiales falseta at the end of my fandangos...simply cause i like it and cause its the same key and i liked the change in feel, happens to go perfectly with what the dancers are doing
If they can call Algáida (which i love btw) from La nueva escuela de la guitarra flamenca (Fandangos) i can play a little verdiales in the end of mine (even tho i know its wrong )
have you heard that track ? sounds like almost anything else but a fandangos, follows none of the characteristics of a fandangos but its called a fandangos, if it wasent written on the cover you would not ever call or think it a fandangos
btw i really like some of the remates, i will use some of them, thank you
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RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
Jose Manuel did Gerardo's Repetition class in Sanlucar back when Nueva Escuela was recorded. He gave a short recital the night before and one student asked about the "Fandangos" .... jose replied "If that thing I wrote is a fandangos then you can call me a foot doctor" or something to that effect. Basically it was just a composition in 3 laid over that similar compas, and there was no proper form name for it. Remember Paco introduced Canastera as a song form which was simply (guitar wise) Rondeña tuning playing over a fandango type beat. In that sense Jose Manuel is just refering to the beat not the song form.
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RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for... (in reply to Florian)
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still have winXP
XP or not XP - that is the question. There is nothing wrong with sticking to XP apart from the fact that support won't be there. Most of us are media puppets and have to go with the latest. The latest OS is not always the best move, especially if you can't update your PC. I always wait until the technology settles down.
These uploads on this page are great. a lot of good work. Thanks.
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