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Florian -> Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:10:51)

I have one or 2 which i will share to make this both ways but if you have some i am looking for some if anyone is into the topic



while there's some picado there its not my only focus ...looking for small remates that make nice ends to falsetas, picado, rithm etc...alzapua, arrpegio whatever...

EDIT..
In fact i am interested in anything to do with Fandangos De Huelva atm


from paco


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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:17:06)

paco again



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:18:44)

paco 3



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:29:02)

paco 4



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:30:12)

paco 5



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:31:32)

paco 6



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:32:47)

riqueni 1



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:34:44)

vicente 1



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 5:36:05)

vicente 2



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 6:00:35)

part of this is quite nice



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El_Tortuga -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 16:07:23)

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ORIGINAL: Florian

paco 3




I think I worked on this one... I'll have a look through my old transcripts!

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kudo -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 16:38:48)

Good stuff!!! thanks Flo



El_Tortuga -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 19:00:25)

Here's one I transcribed for a student some years ago, has no picado, just arpeggio and alzapúa.

I don't know who the original guitarist is, but it's a nice one:



I just noticed that the arpeggios in this remate are exactly the same as in the Paco sample... interesting.

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El_Tortuga -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 21:52:51)

Ok, here's another one, a favorite of mine, it's attributed to Enrique de Melchor. I used to have it as a TablEdit file, but it's disappeared to so I just rewrote it in Sibelius. It's more or less a full falseta that ends with a nice remate.



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El_Tortuga -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 19 2012 22:21:44)

Forgot I had this one! It's a nice one too. I don't know which song I wrote it from, should've made a note of that years ago. (Pardon the pun)



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Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Mar. 20 2012 4:20:32)

very good EL Tortuga, thank you ...this is just the type of stuff i am looking for..i like the first and last



rombsix -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Apr. 15 2012 23:44:49)

Hello mates,

I went over all of these remates (except for the Manuel Granados one) and put them
into Guitar Pro 5. I also exported the final product into midi and PDF. The file attached
here has been renamed to .jpeg to allow it to be uploaded. Please download it,
rename it to .zip, and extract the contents to view them.

I need your help - some of the remates posted above by Florian or Tortuga
were not in context (meaning they were cut out of a piece or something).
I am working on these because I need to learn many ways of playing compas
and ending with remates or cierres. I will use these remates for my DarsGuitar
course on Fandangos de Huelva. There are about 15 remates that I came
up with (some very simple, some are variations of others, etc.). Please go over
all the remates, and tell me if each one of them stands alone correctly, or whether
any of them are wrong (in terms of the stuff played before them, or the
total compas counts of each, etc.).

Thanks!



Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Apr. 16 2012 7:36:24)

wow you put alot of work into this...great man, i will slowly go through some but it will take me a while...i know it would have been smart of me to have marked the name of the track i got the remates from or save the audio example alongside it ...didn't think at the time, will try and find audios for some, vicente should be easy for example since he has only got 1 recorded fandangos

btw one other variation of playing compas that i prefer is staying longer on A minor and skipping that change to the G going straight to the F, you have seen probably this vid but i think i do it here..or on the other one

damn i dont know how to add a facebook video so heres the link to my photos, at the top next to it theres also the videos page, the videos are called "late night practice" and "more fandngos and verdiales practice"

http://www.facebook.com/fremus1/photos



rombsix -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Apr. 16 2012 7:43:11)

quote:

wow you put alot of work into this...great man, i will slowly go through some but it will take me a while...i know it would have been smart of me to have marked the name of the track i got the remates from or save the audio example alongside it ...didn't think at the time, will try and find audios for some, vicente should be easy for example since he has only got 1 recorded fandangos


Indeed I put in a lot of work to get this done. I'm not that interested in the
actual context (I know the Vicente stuff came from Mensaje, etc.), but rather
would like to know how to use these remates in the basic, simple context of
chording compas or simple cierres. This is what I tried to do with the stuff
provided by you or Tortuga on this thread, in the hopes of coming up with
stuff that can be used in any situation because it will apply to everything rather
than just a specific passage. Because of this, I think some of the final products
I came up with are not 100% correct, and that is why I need your help...

Cheers!



Florian -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Apr. 16 2012 7:53:48)

quote:

in the hopes of coming up with
stuff that can be used in any situation because it will apply to everything rather
than just a specific passage....


I understand man, i am not saying for the music but hearing the original context in which was used might help you determine where in the compas he used it, what type of thing did he use it with, i am not by any means an expert on the dos and donts on fandangos except for obvious compas things, all i can say is if it feels right or wrong in comparassement to others i have heard before, but something that might feel right or wrong to me might not feel the same to the next guy

sometimes i am using a particular verdiales falseta at the end of my fandangos...simply cause i like it and cause its the same key and i liked the change in feel, happens to go perfectly with what the dancers are doing

If they can call Algáida (which i love btw) from
La nueva escuela de la guitarra flamenca (Fandangos) i can play a little verdiales in the end of mine (even tho i know its wrong [8|])

have you heard that track ? sounds like almost anything else but a fandangos, follows none of the characteristics of a fandangos but its called a fandangos, if it wasent written on the cover you would not ever call or think it a fandangos

btw i really like some of the remates, i will use some of them, thank you



Ricardo -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Apr. 16 2012 12:39:43)

Jose Manuel did Gerardo's Repetition class in Sanlucar back when Nueva Escuela was recorded. He gave a short recital the night
before and one student asked about the "Fandangos" .... jose replied "If that thing I wrote is a fandangos then you can call me a foot
doctor" or something to that effect. [:D] Basically it was just a composition in 3 laid over that similar compas, and there was no
proper form name for it. Remember Paco introduced Canastera as a song form which was simply (guitar wise) Rondeña tuning
playing over a fandango type beat. In that sense Jose Manuel is just refering to the beat not the song form.

Ricardo



Northern Rock -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Sep. 1 2012 16:09:17)

Thank you
just put this through guitar pro and it will be saved as a good resource and I will get a lot from it

Cheers Craig



Doitsujin -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Sep. 2 2012 10:23:09)

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part of this is quite nice


You still have winXP? ... Oo OMG!!hahahha cool.. nostalgia!



Steve Wright -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Sep. 2 2012 12:53:04)

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still have winXP


XP or not XP - that is the question. There is nothing wrong with sticking to XP apart from the fact that support won't be there. Most of us are media puppets and have to go with the latest. The latest OS is not always the best move, especially if you can't update your PC. I always wait until the technology settles down.

These uploads on this page are great. a lot of good work. Thanks.



elcabezita -> RE: Some nice Alzapua or remates for Fandangos de Huelva ? (Sep. 4 2012 13:36:10)

so nice thread!
I like requeni's!



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