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michel

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Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Encuent... 

i'm working on this fascinating taranta from Pepe Habichuela's Encuentro Book.
I find it to be a very challenging piece of music.

the first time i tried to learn it, i did a few errors on the left hand- (freting hand) fingering and it messed up the whole piece and i went back to zero. Now i'm working with correct fingerings and very slowly.. The rythmical aspect is tricky too, especially the transitions from semiquavers to demisemiquavers, the mix of triplets and semiquavers and the endless arpeggios as well. Another example to realize that 'toque libres' are not that 'libre' as they seem to be. I really like it though, especially the arabic and very abstract touch.

so i'm just curious, is anybody working on that piece too atm? is it part of your repertoire? any experiences or comments?
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bursche

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to michel

Not that one but I learned his Granaína.
Didn't find it too difficult though.
You have to get accustomed to his old fashioned way of accenting the arpegios which at least in the Granaína are played very straight without stretching and bending of notes as I know it from most of the other Granaínas.
Also it is important to go into the bass notes with a strong thumb to
get Pepe's characteristic sound.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 15 2012 10:29:48
 
michel

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to bursche

quote:

You have to get accustomed to his old fashioned way of accenting the arpegios which at least in the Granaína are played very straight without stretching and bending of notes as I know it from most of the other Granaínas.
Also it is important to go into the bass notes with a strong thumb to
get Pepe's characteristic sound.


thanks for the hint bursche, interesting thoughts

I just watched your granaina video again, your hands seem to be very relaxed and your sound is still powerful and tight, very nice!

Pepe's got a strong thumb that's true, i try not to use too much strengh or tension to get it, still a lot of work..
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 15 2012 12:41:53
 
bursche

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to michel

Got to use a lot of strengh, but effortlessly -
Toque fuerte. It is difficult as everything else in flamenco...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 15 2012 13:10:42
 
RTC

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to michel

Michel:
Can you give a review of that particular Encuentro book?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 16 2012 1:47:30
 
michel

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to RTC

OK i give a try

here is the content:

Soleares (A mi Manuel)
Alegrias (Recordando Esencias)
Fandango de Huelva (el Dron)
Bulerias (Boabdil)
Rumba (a Mandeli)
Taranta (Hondo)
Solea por Bulerias (Remate)
Tangos

The material presented in the book corresponds approximatively to the titles in brackets on his CD's. The DVD contains a fast and a slow version as well in order to stress his characteristic accentuation. You can use this material from intermediate beginner up to intermediate advanced. Absolute beginners please start with the Merenge de Cordoba Book.
The Authors gave a very accurate transcription of the left and right hand fingerings, which makes things complicated because you are supposed to follow them closely. Of course you can substitute some of his rasgueos with your own so not to stick to every line.
For real benefit follow closely and in sections. Advanced players say not to focus only onto playing whole pieces but extracting falsetas you can integrate into your own playing (i.e. Soleares, Fandango de Huelva) that's what i'm trying to do.
His playing on the DVD is very lively and full of duende, i think he really enjoyed himself. It is the book i work with most.
I know an advanced player who picked up many of his buleria falsetas just by watching the DVD, but that's beyond my possibilities
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 16 2012 17:26:08
 
RTC

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to michel

Than you very much.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 17 2012 0:33:13
 
chrisva

 

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to michel

I personally think it's one of the best Encuentro books/DVDs in the series.

Pepe's playing on the DVD is awesome (I enjoy it more than his CD's). Nice clear, crisp sound. He makes it look so easy.
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Kalo

 

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to michel

Hi All,

Just curious to know what kind of ras. patterns Pepe uses through out his pieces and are there lots of tremelo stuff?

Thanks,

Kalo
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2012 14:19:36
 
RTC

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to chrisva

I have never purchased and Encuentro series book, this is pointing me in the right direction.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 19 2012 5:08:09
 
michel

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RE: Taranta from Pepe Habichuela Enc... (in reply to Kalo

quote:

Just curious to know what kind of ras. patterns Pepe uses through out his pieces and are there lots of tremelo stuff?


Here are a few of the rasgueos he mainly uses:

3-stroke rasgueos
abanicos:
p(up) a(down) i(down)
p(uo) ma(down) i(down)

m(down) m(down) i(up)

4-stroke rasgueos
m(up) m(down) i(down) m(up) semiquavers

a(down) m(down) i(down) m(up) a(down) m(down) i(down) m(up)
or
a(down) m(down) i(down) m(up) a(down) m(down) i(down) i(up)
(in semiquavers over two beats)

there is no tremolo section in the book.

quote:

Pepe's playing on the DVD is awesome (I enjoy it more than his CD's). Nice clear, crisp sound. He makes it look so easy.

that's true, when i listen pepe habichuela, i only listen to the tracks i recorded on the encuentro DVD.
So you can't go wrong with that one, because even if you don't open the book you will enjoy one of the most authentic solo guitar recitals on the DVD
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