The 1:40 Version of Paco's Concert 2010

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Arash

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The 1:40 Version of Paco's Concert 2010

I think we only had the 1 hour version. here are additional 40 minutes.
And good quality

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Ricardo

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Arash)

Some other long concerts available in good quality. This is a nice duo concert Paco did with Mclaughlin in 1987. Very good playing overall, and a fantastic buleria solo at 50:25.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2012 6:52:02

Arash

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Ricardo)

thanks.
That Conde is soooo good
Whats up with the Capo ? Does it have diamonds in it or what ? so shining

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2012 8:24:38

XXX

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Ricardo)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

Some other long concerts available in good quality.

54:30 sounds like it is a non-album falseta.

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Ricardo

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to XXX)

From compadres w Manolo sanlucar

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2012 13:50:52

jg7238

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Ricardo)

Nice concert. Thanks for sharing. It seems Paco became a bit irritated at 1:10:04 when someone yelled PACO! He then said "que" which means "what" in Spanish.

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rombsix

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to jg7238)

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Nice concert. Thanks for sharing. It seems Paco became a bit irritated at 1:10:04 when someone yelled PACO! He then said "que" which means "what" in Spanish.

Nah, it's just a joke he does. Seen him do it in several videos... But it's cool regardless.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2012 21:19:28

Luka

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Arash)

In the beginning Paco seems tensed (concert with Mclaughlin). I think it's the sound.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 14 2012 18:16:54

Elie

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Arash)

Golden Paco ... everytime I watch his videos I just think to my self : damn there will never be anyone as good as paco

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 14 2012 18:24:37

kudo

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Arash)

HOLY **** farru broke his shoe's heel in around 1:11:00 ish! never seen such a thing happen before

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 14 2012 18:26:55

rombsix

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to kudo)

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HOLY **** farru broke his shoe's heel in around 1:11:00 ish! never seen such a thing happen before

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 14 2012 19:15:00

Elie

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Arash)

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HOLY **** farru broke his shoe's heel in around 1:11:00 ish! never seen such a thing happen before

yep I've seen Joaquín Grilo breaking his heel twice
also I had a very old video were the dancer (might be Joaquín) breaks his heel and funnily it regress back and hits paco making him irritated

anyone knows that video ?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 14 2012 19:29:30

jg7238

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Elie)

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everytime I watch his videos I just think to my self : damn there will never be anyone as good as paco

The last falseta he plays in the bulerias solo is just amazing. The whole thing is great but what a nice way to end it. Brilliant! (Too much thumb work on that last falseta though)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 14 2012 23:32:05

rombsix

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Guest)

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Notice how around 53:48 he switches the way he counts in his feet at the end of the falseta. I guess it shows how even Paco adjusts his counting based on the falseta. Anyone care to enlighten me?

I think it's just that his foot got tired.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 15 2012 0:26:25

Ricardo

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Guest)

Wow you guys still confused on the foot tap thing? For bulerias
Paco often taps the Golpes you do with knuckles on a table
it helps to lock in groove like a drummer uses hi hat for example.

Other thing is to mark the beat (which is and always was 12,2,4 ,6,8,10....if you
must count to 12). For Paco the pivot beat is ALWAYS beat 10 (or 4) as that is the only
beat that exists for the Golpe thing (1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11) AND
the straight beat marking.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 15 2012 12:10:34

rombsix

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Ricardo)

Great explanation Ricardo, but I think it really was just because his foot got tired. Go through the entire buleria solo and you'll notice several times where he interrupts the 1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11 and that happens in several different ways. This is why I said that his plan was to keep doing the above tapping all through out but you just can't keep doing that for 10 minutes continuously without your foot getting fatigued a bit and you having to change things up for a few seconds before going back to the original tapping scheme.

But I might be completely wrong, which seems to be a recurring theme nowadays.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 15 2012 12:30:22

Ricardo

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to rombsix)

You are wrong.... He can keep it forever as per some older vids.
The pivot points always as I said 10 or 4 and for purpose of phrasing he
changes the way marks.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 15 2012 13:14:41

rombsix

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Ricardo)

Awesome. I haven't looked very carefully to make sure he keeps that foot tap going along the entire 10 minutes or so. (Internet didn't help me watch the entire video). I just assumed because when I tap my foot for long-ish times, it gets sore anteriorly and I have to rest it a bit or tap with my heel instead to change muscle groups. I guess PdL just says no to lactic acid build up the same way Chuck Norris built the barn he was born in with his bare hands.

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kudo

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to rombsix)

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no to lactic acid build up the same way Chuck Norris

I cant stand hearing his name...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 15 2012 15:23:11

jg7238

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Ricardo)

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For Paco the pivot beat is ALWAYS beat 10 (or 4) as that is the only
beat that exists for the Golpe thing (1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11) AND
the straight beat marking.

Exactly!

Never had any doubts about that.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 15 2012 22:51:53

Ricardo

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RE: The 1:40 Version of Paco's Conce... (in reply to Ricardo)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

Some other long concerts available in good quality. This is a nice duo concert Paco did with Mclaughlin in 1987. Very good playing overall, and a fantastic buleria solo at 50:25.

Darn the full concert got removed from youtube. I used to watch this alot. Anyone kept it that could upload somewhere?
Here is one tune from the concert:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 20 2012 23:43:39